Is God a biker??

[wkid_one]

It is just tooooooo easy......I don't know why I bothered because the reaction was entirely expected.

You really need to learn to sing a different tune - this one is getting boring.

[Sycophant]

Your language has no place on this thread!

If you can't respect some of us enough to control your filthy mouth, who cares what you think anyway? Not me that's for sure!

Language is simply a tool to express outselves. No words are specifically bad, or good. People choose to express themselves in different ways. For many of us, words like fu*k (and I am censoring it only so as you might be inclined to read my comments without simply writing the off as useless) offer a degree of meaning that emphisis that no other words can offer.

I do not understand the people who seem to believe that words can cause more harm that many other things in our society that are left unchallanged. The words in question are only offensive to people because those people are told that they are offensive. The context in which we use the words is often not offensive at all.

More laughable to me is the acceptance of censorship by obfustication or replacement. The idea of beeping out a word, using a substitute, or in written communication, replacing letters. If you watch TV and hear "I am going to kick your BEEPing head in" you know what was said, does the fact that the sound was not heard make it better? When someone (and I know a lot of religious people who do this) stubs their toe and exclaims "oh fudge!" their are simply replacing one word for another, the meaning and intent is the same. And when I type F**K, everyone knows what I mean, and if you were to read it aloud, you would probably utter the actual word.

How is that any better?

Let people express themselves in the manner they see fit, and if you do not like it then express yourself differently.

Also, just while I am ranting...

In short, God is omnipresent (everywhere at once), God is omniscient (all-knowing), God is omnipotent (all-powerful), He is the Almighty and is involved in EVERYONES life whether they regard it or not!

If I were of another religion or strongly atheist, this might offend me. The idea that a christian god is involved in my life. As you said yourself, Religion is something that man believes and practises - to me this seems to imply that religion is a very personal thing - and it is. It's in this way that quoting scripture, while very relevant to you, and I wouldn't dream of denying you that, can seem condecending, annoying and even insulting to others. Others who by their own judgement hold different beliefs and practice other things.

I'm not saying you shouldn't but understand that things that are right and just to you are not to others.

This has been a slightly odd rant. That's all.

[Nouseforaname]

I think most religious people are weak, when something goes wrong in your life you instantly turn to your god, cos your too week to sort it out for yourself. I get by just fine in life without having to run to my imaganary friend.

Any person i know who is religious never lives their life to their beliefs, they break all the rules but then say it's ok, cos they will be forgiven.

Two people i know had to hide the fact that they were living together before marriage, cos they didnt want to loose face in front of their other nut case religious mates.

have i offended anyone? i dont give a fuck, you offend me everytime you quote scripture, you offend me everytime you come up to me in the street and starting telling me my life is worthless cos i dont share the same belief as you, you offend me everytime you hand me bullshit pieces of paper on queen st on saturday night when im out with my mates. You Offend me when you come to my house at 8am trying to give me books! You offend me when i cant go out and have a beer cos of a dumb religious holiday!

[wkid_one]

Isn't Easter just like that tho.....why do all us non-practising NZer's have to have a religious holiday shoved down our throats? Surely those non-religious retailers etc should be able to choose to open their shop?

Are those with religion soo weak willed that they need the shops closed etc to prevent them from NOT observing the holiday?

Easter/Xmas piss me off every year......as it legislates against free will.

[Wenier]

I think this should have been in the Off Topic section as it is a subject thats gonna get a few people all up in arms about others answers.

But the way i see it GOD doesnt have anything to do with this world but then im not religous and i agree with WKID ONE y do we have to suffer of shops being closed for a religous holiday when were not religous

PS i no i cant spell so dont bother correcting me and i feel like shit which sends all that spellin downhill

[dangerous]

Your language has no place on this thread!

If you can't respect some of us enough to control your filthy mouth, who cares what you think anyway? Not me that's for sure!

I am NOT religious but DO intiley agree with Zed here because
Whilest I sweer as bad as the next bloke I do NOT sweer in frount of females or JC bashers, me mum and the older generation, because it is about respect of which there isent enough of these days and that is why I generaly wont here.
If you have the need too then try using a icon (smilie) or two as that is why thay are there
Wicked's posts do nothing for me when filled with F this & F that I think that more intelergent words can be used. As some of his posts are well thought out and writen.

[wkid_one]

I refer to the online personas - I am the same offline and online and not going to temper the way I speak to suit typing.

I am sick of religious spoutings and am no less offender by this. Funny how swearing has made it in to main stream movies etc tho isn't it?....I will stop swearing when others stop preaching. Until then....f*ck it

[dangerous]

Wkd: ITs nothing personal aye, I will not stand for religious spoutings either but as for the bible quotes.......well they go over my head anyway I just ignore them, end of. I think that it adds topic having the likes of Zed and company here even if I dont believe a word they say.....but hay thats cool
As for the movies in that case you get a warning about the langage so you can chose to or not to see it were as here the posts are in ya face.
As far as me sweering like I said above theres some people I wont in frount of and those people are here, and I can not choose who reads my posts so instead of spelling the word correctly (which i have trouble with anyway) I might spell it fak or shite

[Zed]

So this threads for all the gsus types and any others who may be lurking out there.

In my years of talking to different people about God and other spiritual matters, I have found a very interesting phenomenon indeed- that those who are most against this subject are that way because of one of two reasons:

1. They have been affected negatively by religious hypocrites at some point in their life, normally childhood, and want nothing to do with it.

2. They are in fact searching for truth and are all talk!

Some of the most outspoken, filthy mouthed, rotten beggars who ever condemned God and Christianity ended up realising that their behaviour was all a show and that in their heart of hearts they wanted to believe and hope in God!


Zed

[Firefight]

I don,t recall any rule about language when I joined up,

And while I do not go out of my way to upset people.

I don,t care if someone takes offence, beacuse I know that I did not intend

it to happen, as far as all the other ramblings biblical quotes or whatever

If I do not like the sorce I have found the ignore function thingy will atleast

Cut out the original quote.

Firefight

[dangerous]

In my years of talking to different people about God and other spiritual matters, I have found a very interesting phenomenon indeed- that those who are most against this subject are that way because of one of two reasons:

1. They have been affected negatively by religious hypocrites at some point in their life, normally childhood, and want nothing to do with it.

2. They are in fact searching for truth and are all talk!

Some of the most outspoken, filthy mouthed, rotten beggars who ever condemned God and Christianity ended up realising that their behaviour was all a show and that in their heart of hearts they wanted to believe and hope in God!


Zed

Dude..........like I said 'Wayyyyyyyyyyy over my head'

Ps: Skyryder.........Helllllllllllllllllllllllllllllp you Guzzie riding bastard look what you got me into

[Big Dog]

God must be a biker and here is the logic.
Why else would it be so much fun?
why else would the average biker be moree intelligent than the average cager?
Why else would we be better lovers?
Why else would we be better looking?
Why else would we be more attractive to the opposite sex (you try "pulling" with a $6k car)?
Why else would kids look up to and worship even those on tractors (harleys)?
Why else does every lifestyle rider look like they are trying out for the part of Jesus in the local play?
Name one other minority less persecuted by the moral majority?

$10 bucks says he let us build bikes because they look like fun and he wanted a go.................. Now who knows what god rides?

[Coldkiwi]

so I guess all you folk who are so 'offended' by having easter and christmas 'forced down your throat' (now was that by the church down the road from you or Farmers and Kmart?) hold fast to your principles and keep working on through right? or is it not really that offensive to you?

I'm gonna agree with Zed that negative perceptions of god are often borne out of bad experiences with people supposedly representing him. isn't it a shame christians aren't perfect then we wouldn't have any mixups!

i'll get back to this later but I need to go out

[Jackrat]

so I guess all you folk who are so 'offended' by having easter and christmas 'forced down your throat' (now was that by the church down the road from you or Farmers and Kmart?) hold fast to your principles and keep working on through right? or is it not really that offensive to you?

I'm gonna agree with Zed that negative perceptions of god are often borne out of bad experiences with people supposedly representing him. isn't it a shame christians aren't perfect then we wouldn't have any mixups!

i'll get back to this later but I need to go out

Oh goodie while your out I can have a turn.
Anyway Zed is right,I was raised a Catholic,they were full of shit,My step mother is C of E,they are even more full of shit and enjoy picking on little kids.
I had a long talk with some Jehovas witnesses a while back,They got real angrey when I mentioned another religion I have studyed, like line em' up an shoot em' type angrey,so I reckon they is full of shit to.
People like Zed that quote scriptures leave me behind because I can never work out what their saying fast enough to keep up with the conversation,Plus I get the feeling that they feel superior to me because of that,I mean if they have something to say why can,t they say it in a way that can be understood by dumb fuks like me.I reckon if god was a for real biker he wouldn't speak in a language I can't understand.
He also wouldn't allow things like booze an weed an then say "don't touch".
And if it's all about free will, then how come mine is so weak,That hardly seems fair.Nah,if god was for real I don't think he would be a biker.
To much fun involved.plus he would be no good at it,always watching the speedo rather than the road.Can't brake the law of the land ya' know.
He would have to issue himself a ticket every time he broke the speed limit.
Plus to many of his boys like playing with other little boys an that don't go down to well in biker circles.He'd probably cop a floging for leting it go on.

[Kwaka-Kid]

crikey! what a post, well i just spent hte last 20mins reading all this trying to keep up and understand, but i have to be honest, half this christian stuff is over my head, i guess A-stream all through high school and all passes through SC and SFC just sint good enough -not meaning that to be offensive, but DUDE do you guys loose me? just makes me feel like i have no chance of knowing god if i dont understand any of what he does/says? Us simple people keep it simple i buy a bike i like, i ride the bike i like. If god does ride, i hope he follows the same idea-it really works!