Is God a biker??

[SPman]

interesting story from Mr Carlin. I think he's missed a few points and probably couldn't say he can speak from experience.

Mr Carlin - a cynical comedian who has an abhorrence of all organised religion, and the conflict that arises therefrom.....Do you believe in God? - Yes...Do you believe in MY God? - no......BANG!
I have no conflict with strong and devout personal faith and respect people whogo about doing good guided by that faith - but that is rather different from organised religion. I just find that proselytising tends to wear me out.
Anyway God is a biker and any and everything else you want God to be

[Nouseforaname]

I'm not saying people that have never experienced the love of God have invalid opinions on the subject of christianity... but would any of us expect a pedestrian who's never been in a car to truly understand what it could be like doing 200kph through jennian homes corner at pukekohe on a bike and empathise with why we might want to go even faster? Would we not look quite mad and irrational to them?
... you see where I'm going?

The same could be said about paedophiles, rapist's, murders and suicide bombers.

[Two Smoker]

Yes I know.
Yes I'm a biker, but in retrospect I should've given you all leather for skin instead of this horrible squidgy soft fleshy stuff. Black leather of course but with velcro for knee sliders.

YES!!!!!!!!!! God Rides a CT110 . I ride a CT110, ooooooohhhhh i ride gods bike LMAO

[Coldkiwi]

The same could be said about paedophiles, rapist's, murders and suicide bombers.

No, because all of those things hurt other people deeply. Going around pukekohe on my own is not going to hurt anyone else, even if they don't quite get it.
Likewise, christians can and should be able to share their faith without hurting people deeply. Sometimes people may find that the idea of an all knowing and all seeing God exposes parts of their life they'd rather hide (me included). Sure, that hurts, but if its said out of love and not spite or judgement, eventually the person on the receiving end will not bear a grudge against the person sharing.

as for organised religion.. thats a HUGE concept to blacklist outright. Organised people acting out of love can surely only be a good thing, so perhaps its when organised people forget they are supposed to love others first and foremost that problems arise.
I don't really think 'religion' exists.. its really just groups of people and some are better at learning from their mistakes than others.

[Holy Roller]

I have no conflict with strong and devout personal faith and respect people whogo about doing good guided by that faith - but that is rather different from organised religion. I just find that proselytising tends to wear me out.

The problem is when one thinks that they are on earth to convert the unconverted. It is not our job to convert anyone that belongs to the work of the Holy Spirit, He brings the conviction or relisation that God is the answer for our longings. We are here to lead people to a place where the Holy Spirit will do that work in their lives as He has done in mine. We are to judge ourselves and leave others to God.

[James Deuce]

Mr Carlin - a cynical comedian who has an abhorrence of all organised religion, and the conflict that arises therefrom.....Do you believe in God? - Yes...Do you believe in MY God? - no......BANG!
I have no conflict with strong and devout personal faith and respect people whogo about doing good guided by that faith - but that is rather different from organised religion. I just find that proselytising tends to wear me out.
Anyway God is a biker and any and everything else you want God to be

He was superb in "Dogma"

[Lou Girardin]

To quote Mr Connelly, who the hell would follow a religion started by 2 hippies and a talking snake?
Lou

[Zed]

To quote Mr Connelly, who the hell would follow a religion started by 2 hippies and a talking snake?
Lou

So tell us Lou, what do you follow that gives you the answers to the hard questions in life?

Don't be ashamed, make a stand for what you believe is the truth!


Zed

[SPman]

So tell us Lou, what do you follow that gives you the answers to the hard questions in life?

Don't be ashamed, make a stand for what you believe is the truth!
Zed

Blessed Be, Zed

[Lou Girardin]

So tell us Lou, what do you follow that gives you the answers to the hard questions in life?

Experience Zed and the wisdom of age.
Lou

[White trash]

I gotta say, folks. This is the most entertaining thread I've seen on this site!

There is nothing to get people more hyped up than a good debate on religion. I have no real feelings either way. I don't believe in God as such but I think if you live by the rule of treating your fellow man as you would be treated, you can't really go too far wrong.

If I'm completely wrong and there is a God, I hope he is a biker 'cause I need all the help I can get.

[MikeL]

So tell us Lou, what do you follow that gives you the answers to the hard questions in life?

Don't be ashamed, make a stand for what you believe is the truth!


Zed

And this is the problem of organized religion in a nutshell. It purports to provide ready-made "answers" (the "truth") to life's "hard questions" provided you "follow" its doctrines. The "hard questions" usually turn out to have very little to do with spirituality and a lot to do with "right" and "wrong" in human behaviour - i.e. ethics, in which an entirely secular code is just as likely to lead to human happiness and fulfilment, or the opposite, as one based on religious precepts.
If you are Christian, or Muslim, or Jewish, or a Buddhist, and you have a deep faith based on some personal revelation, so that you know what "truth" is, that's fine, and your life must be immeasurably enhanced by that knowledge, but if part of the "truth" is that you must attack those who don't share your faith, cause untold misery by telling other people how to live their lives, and create fear and unhappiness with threats of judgement and punishment for things which you define as "sins", then you'll forgive me if I don't extend to you the sympathetic tolerance that I have for others who quietly get on with the business of living a good life.

[SPman]

I don't believe in God as such but I think if you live by the rule of treating your fellow man as you would be treated, you can't really go too far wrong.
.

Aah...would that be...Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you....

(you gotta get the jargon right!)

[riffer]

Aah...would that be...Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you....

(you gotta get the jargon right!)

or as we pagans say "First do no harm..."

[Big Dog]

crikey! what a post, well i just spent hte last 20mins reading all this trying to keep up and understand, but i have to be honest, half this christian stuff is over my head, i guess A-stream all through high school and all passes through SC and SFC just sint good enough -not meaning that to be offensive, but DUDE do you guys loose me? just makes me feel like i have no chance of knowing god if i dont understand any of what he does/says? Us simple people keep it simple i buy a bike i like, i ride the bike i like. If god does ride, i hope he follows the same idea-it really works!

Don't worry kk, god will talk to you in way you are able to understand when you are ready to hear

Just know that god loves you and if the zealots won't share their god you can have some of mine, because god is more valuable the more you share him.

An old freind once told me god is one of three commodities that are worth more the more you give them away, the others being laughter and love.

Me and my god are going for a ride this weekend, what are you doing with your god?