Geez there is a lot of anti police

[scumdog]

Well I don't know of any data that could prove that so if you have a link I'd like to see it. One similar theory is that a lot of crashes happen close to home because people are driving within their comfort zone and their level of awareness decreases.

My theory is that most crashes happen within 15km of home is because that's where most people do most of their driving/riding, that combined with comfort zone complacency is the most likely scenario IMHO

[thehollowmen]

by the way Lou - what I do is not illegal - I aint a hooker.

s/m is illegal if it causes marks, otherwise known as "bodily harm", and that is so whether your partner consents or not

As someone who delves into these practices on occassion... The law is iffy at the moment. It seems to be up to the judgement of the attending officers... there is law against "consentual abuse" but then again, piercing parlors, tattoo parlors, they all break the skin and cause 'bodily harm' but they haven't been outlawed.

The dentist when I was at school caused bodily harm and that shit wasn't consentual either... why hasn't the dentist been arrested?

[vifferman]

...s/m is illegal if it causes marks, otherwise known as "bodily harm", and that is so whether your partner consents or not - if you bruise, the legality you lose. (Dont ask me why I know this).

Why do you know this?

[Stinger]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

Here is his paper. Unfortunately you can't get the whole thing on the net without paying or belonging to a uni that has access. But, lots of libraries have these journals. I know the Auckland Uni does.

not proof, the study is too small but interesting anyway.

[spudchucka]

Cheers, as you say.....interesting!!

[MacD]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

Here is his paper. Unfortunately you can't get the whole thing on the net without paying or belonging to a uni that has access. But, lots of libraries have these journals. I know the Auckland Uni does.

not proof, the study is too small but interesting anyway.

Try this link: Nevermind - didn't work

[rodgerd]

And at the expense of what - JUST ABOUT EVERY MAJOR CRIME STATISTIC HAS RISEN IN NZ

Oh, horseshit. Crime has, overall, been falling for the last decade or so.

[rodgerd]

As someone who delves into these practices on occassion... The law is iffy at the moment. It seems to be up to the judgement of the attending officers... there is law against "consentual abuse" but then again, piercing parlors, tattoo parlors, they all break the skin and cause 'bodily harm' but they haven't been outlawed.

Hell, every time I go to Judo practise I end up with cuts, scrapes, and bruises, as well as the occasional sprain. Clearly I must have my sempai prosecuted.

[TwoSeven]

[QUOTE=celticno6]When the govt turns the screws on speeding and lets HP give us 3km/h grace on speed like Victoria you will end up criminalising a large percentage of the population ...
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Would it not be better to understand that the speed limit is the 'maximum' speed you should be traveling - not the actual speed you should be traveling. So if you want more than 3k - drive slower. Its amazing what slowing down by a couple of k will do for not getting busted for breaking a clearly defined law - which you sign up to simply by licensing yourself for.

[scumdog]

[QUOTE=Tiggerz]

When the govt turns the screws on speeding and lets HP give us 3km/h grace on speed like Victoria you will end up criminalising a large percentage of the population ...
QUOTE]

Would it not be better to understand that the speed limit is the 'maximum' speed you should be traveling - not the actual speed you should be traveling. So if you want more than 3k - drive slower. Its amazing what slowing down by a couple of k will do for not getting busted for breaking a clearly defined law - which you sign up to simply by licensing yourself for.

Sheeit!! Whats happening to you people? So much sense and logic in one day from so many!!
I am just waiting for a big return onslought from the rampant rabid-raving nay-sayers anytime!!!!