Broadband in NZ

[Sniper]

Why configure a router when you get them for free on some deals?

[sAsLEX]

The Gov shat its pants, and didn't unbundle.

so basically this is the first time helen didn't use her nuts and tell them where to shove it!

Got to love the monopolies in this country!

[leenok]

hmmm how many people would sign a petition to unbundle the local loop?! I think Mexico and NZ are the only coutries in the OECD that haven't and due to this telecon continues to only offer cheaper higher quality broadband in areas where there is competition such as wellington, scum!

I heard a rumour that they were looking at unbundling the local loop, anyone confirm?

[bgd]

Why configure a router when you get them for free on some deals?

Simply because I can configure it here so it will (hopefully) be plug and play for them when they get back to NZ. Trying to talk through the set up over the phone would be too difficult.

And not that I've really looked yet but I wasn't expecting wireless routers to be bundled in packages.

[Pixie]

depending where in Chch, it could be cheaper, cos TelstraClear (TCL) have built network there, so it drives down the cost of everything, and Telecom have competition. So phones and internet etc, is a bit cheaper, and you have better plans. Same for most parts of Wgtn too.

Alex, TCL and other competitors did a 'Call 4 Change' campaign last year. 61,241 people called, logged and signed with them and competitors against Telecom, and the government 'didn't listen'.
What really happened, was Telecom blackmailed and used scare tactics against the Government and said that if the Local Loop Unbundling (LLU) went ahead, Telecom would pull out it's millions from the share markets and Government funding stuff, so the 'NZ public' would be the ones feeling the burden. The Gov shat its pants, and didn't unbundle. They did force pathetic bitstream, which no one can do shit with, which has increased slightly since then. Telecom still continue to run their high profits. And for a while, TCL resold home phone lines off Telecom. But the profit margin was 2%, so TCL gave up last month selling home phone lines, unless you're willing to put your toll calls and internet thru too.

Actually,what Telecom said was that it's share price would fall.All those phony socialists in the govt. were faced with the prospect of their personal portfolios losing value did what they needed to to protect their wealth.
Bugger! I sound like a pinko,but it's in a good cause.

Ethiopia has annouced it will get high speed broadband to it's entire population in 5 years

[Karma]

You could set up her PC with Norton Internet Security, it ties in with XP user names, has a setting called parental control, you can apply various levels of protection to your daughters surfing.

All good in theory, until Symantec realise a program update that effectively resets the firewall to factory settings without telling anyone.

A standard help call now goes something like this;

Customer - I can't access the internet.
Me - Do you have Norton Internet Security
C - Yes
M - Urgh.... turn it off will you
C - Ok done.... oh... I can access the internet now... what did you do?
M - 'Hangs Up'

Norton is something that can be run, but is very finnicky about being setup correctly, and remember that if it stuffs up then no ISP will provide any support for it, and if I remember correctly Symantec have started charging for their support line. Just FYI.

Why configure a router when you get them for free on some deals?

Mainly because the routers that the ISPs give out are very basic models, cheap and cheerful really. If you want something that will give you solid service without going wrong you'll have to pay for it. You get what you pay for and all that

And not that I've really looked yet but I wasn't expecting wireless routers to be bundled in packages.

They're not, but you can usually use the free modem they would have supplied as discount against a better modem.

IE. Xtra will supply you with a free modem that has a paper value of $99.99, now their wireless modem kit is $279.99ish, so you could upgrade from the free standard modem to the better wireless modem for only $179.98. Probably still a bit over the odds, but the options there.

[sAsLEX]

Simply because I can configure it here so it will (hopefully) be plug and play for them when they get back to NZ. Trying to talk through the set up over the phone would be too difficult.

well half the people on here are all comp geeks, could get one of the senior trusted members to do it for a beer or something?

[bugjuice]

so basically this is the first time helen didn't use her nuts and tell them where to shove it!

Got to love the monopolies in this country!

actually, wasn't Helen's call. Was Paul Swain who's no longer in that role. But it won't get looked at again for a while.

And we are bottom of the OECD with Mexico..

[Test Pilot]

broadband in New Zeland is slow and really unstable compared with other countries. Businesses get a better connection but it is still crap. Be prepared for shit upload and speed fluxuations during busier times, and dont use xtra, they dont give as gooda customer service as others and there line quality is no better than the others. I fanything they overload there lines with more users so at busy times your service is compromissed.

[sAsLEX]

actually, wasn't Helen's call. Was Paul Swain who's no longer in that role. But it won't get looked at again for a while.

And we are bottom of the OECD with Mexico..

and he wasn't in her government?

yeah I know, sure i said that in an earlier post

[Mooch]

broadband in New Zeland is slow and really unstable compared with other countries. Businesses get a better connection but it is still crap. Be prepared for shit upload and speed fluxuations during busier times, and dont use xtra, they dont give as gooda customer service as others and there line quality is no better than the others. I fanything they overload there lines with more users so at busy times your service is compromissed.

Maybe a different situation in Auckland or maybe within your suburb , Was on Xtra adsl with no issues for a couple of years. Normally got close to 2 m/bit downloads when require depending on site. Upload was nomally close to 128k/bits , maybe the dslam in our area wasn't oversubscribed too much, and believe me you haven't had bad service until you've dealt with BT. The afternoon after the services was provisioned the service dropped out. I spent a further 8 - 10 hours over 3 days trying to get someone to acknoloadge the issue was either with the line or the equipement at the other end. I got the usual , yes it's being passed on etc , I'd ring up for progress , told no trouble ticket as the lazy F on the end had not logged it etc. Eventully a tech called me back , spent about 30 seconds on the phone with me and dispatached someone to the exchange, problem was sorted shortly after.
I've been in IT for 20 years now , last 15 in Telecommunications and I've never had the run around like you get with BT. Shit , I'd love to work for them for a while to sort out there disfunctional customer support structures.

When I return to NZ in April , if KB's in Welliewood need a hand with Telecommunications / Wireless etc , no problem .... Macs Golds the choice of beer thanks.

[Karma]

Seems that it's not DSLAMs that are the problem at the moment, keep gettings RANs popping all over the shop... par for the course until the network upgrades go through I suppose.

[Brian d marge]

Slightly OT
As the thread was/is about the best way to set up broad band ( highspeed internet )

Here in JPN I have a fibre optic conection, ADVERTISED as 100mb up and down

I get 33 Mb/sec LOCAL
and 1.5 Mb/s INTERNATIONAL
PPoE
a 16 percent que at the server , drops to 8 or something like that
Uncapped ....as in I sit here and watch some really good internet telly ( was watching a doco on the history of the waffen SS last nite, you could trace the mindset of the people, really good television)

I didnt even know there was a difference, international and national ????The initial set up was a pain it kept on discontecting etc, to the point of keeping a log of when it did disconect
LOW and behold it was sunday nite after 11pm
but they fixed all that , it magically stopped ( and they said it was my computer that was causing the prob, my computer hasnt changed , the problems stopped ,,,strange ,,,must be the fairies )

and the cost is about 6 percent of my weekly income ( Racing the MX cost more !!! per week )

good luck in setting up your system I would be interested to see what u get!!

Stephen

[FEINT]

Slightly OT
As the thread was/is about the best way to set up broad band ( highspeed internet )

Here in JPN I have a fibre optic conection, ADVERTISED as 100mb up and down

I get 33 Mb/sec LOCAL
and 1.5 Mb/s INTERNATIONAL
PPoE
a 16 percent que at the server , drops to 8 or something like that
Uncapped ....as in I sit here and watch some really good internet telly ( was watching a doco on the history of the waffen SS last nite, you could trace the mindset of the people, really good television)

I have seen Yahoo BB advertise in Japan for 48mbps ADSL.. with no cap and a free modem, now that is fast.

[Brian d marge]

I have seen Yahoo BB advertise in Japan for 48mbps ADSL.. with no cap and a free modem, now that is fast.

My sister in law uses that shes on an actual of 20 something I really should check.,
All providers here are uncapped, ( I didnt know untill I tried sending video to me folks ! )
Why cant NZ go satelite or something, What I cant understand is that The fellas who built NZ , Brunner , etc made huge engineering projects , and all invested in infrastructure,
Surely the Internet IS the new roads, ??

Me I would issue the scummys in the jails a shovel ( with a small shovel blade ) and start them a digging and a laying

Then I would open a Government dept and call it ....ummm the misery/ministry of telecomunications and put someone in there paid for by taskforce green .

Stephen

and part of my new world order. everyone is entitled to 3 lumps of coal at christmas