Hayabusa owners

[Marmoot]

Well if they missed the brake pads you wonder how close they were looking. I see by the manual that its not up for a Valve clearance till 24000KM. So what did they do for 4 hours..? You might have been shafted there mate I'd be asking some questions.

Nah, I'm not the type that ask questions. I always think if you come up and make trouble, then they can always sprinkle a pinch of sugar into the oil on the next service.
Normally I'll just go somewhere else.

You reckon I've been shafted?
Anybody else reckon I've been shafted?
If there is enough voice, I will name and shame.......

[Big Dog]

Only "spannering" have done on mine is experimenting with conigurations seat hump and pack rack.
Only usefull info i can offer is that I have done 3000 plus km's on three different chain lubes.

First up was Putoline, followed by Golden Spectrum, followed by Silkolene.

Putoline
- Dosing = 600 - 900kms.
- Brilliant if a little messy.
- Prone to Fling during application.
- Would not hesitate to but again.
- $19.95
- Only stopped using it because the can dried up.

Golden Spectrum
- Dosing = 300 - 600 kms.
- Easy to get on the chain - low pressure foam.
- Absolute crap.
- Chain "Blues" at 600kms (less if riden enthusiastically).
- Easy to get off the chain!
- Turns into a tar like substace when applied to heat.
- Get it on hot metal parts and degreaser will not get it off (bug and tar remover works)
- $29.95
- Stopped using it because sick of the mess and needing to apply it every 300 kms. Went back to Putaline.
- Even when carefully maintained the chain was snatchy from 2000kms.
Complained to suppliers of Golden Spectrum.
They supplied me with a can of Silkolene Gel gratis (FREE)

Silkolene Gel
- Dosing = 1000-2000kms
- Chain stopped being snatchy immediately.
- Have done 2400 kms without drying the chain.
- Messy to apply - very high pressure, definately need to mask!
- No noticeable fling, still need to clean old fling from other two though!
- $29.95

Summary - I currently have at least half a can of each product so what do I use?
Silkolene Gel = Current preferred product will buy again!
Putolene = When Silkolene runs out will use till empty and then replace with Silkolene!
Golden Spectrum = Will not use on current bike, will try on pillions learner bike (when she gets one), or just give away to low power bike owner, not suitable for bikes with high chain speeds. The only use I have for this product is to throw at anyone who touches my bike without my say so!

[Big Dog]

Does that $$$ figure make sense?

If so, I'm happy....
If not, just one more chockup next time and I will name the place publicly here....

My 12000 km "A" service (full service including Dyno) cost me $408 after regular shopper discount (without discount approx $450). They polished her to a high sheen, and provided a loaner @ no extra charge.

My guage of a fair price is if you feel you cheated them and tehy feel they cheated you it was fair.

[Cajun]

Marmoot - i believe you have been ripped of thats insane prices, for a 12,000km service.

It only cost me $200 for the 24,000 service on my 600, which involves valve clearence checks.

I know father in laws bike is due to go in for its 12,000km service shortly, and i would be expecting it to only be around that $200 mark

[DEATH_INC.]

how much does this thing cost you and what is the complexity on doing it?

Ride her over to my place and I can do the mod in about 5 mins (if I can get at the wires on the bus without pulling stuff off)and about 20c.....

[Marmoot]

...(if I can get at the wires on the bus without pulling ......

ha ha ha.....ha.........ha.....
No offense, but that thing has more upholstery than my room.
Took me 1 hour and 2 people to figure out how to change a lightbulb (there you go, the answer to How many Hayabusa fans does it take to change a lightbulb)

Very thank's for the offer mate, will keep it in my agenda for near future.

[Cajun]

Death - its prety easy to get at, take seat off, lift tank up and its right there.

Marmoot it makes a huge difference my father in law said bike is so much smoother thru the gears and to ride in general, and doesn't 'hunt' down low around town and like.

What the TRE does it tell the bike thats in 5th gear all the time, since they limit the hp in 1,2,3,4 to half hp under 50% throttle, and then at certain rpm in 6th the speed limiter, this in turn removes these.

The removing speed limiter isn't to much of an issue really, but it really helps bike down low.

[Marmoot]

I might deserve the tar&feather for this, but......what about the fuel consumption?

(question asked purely for research and statistical purposes)

[terbang]

I might deserve the tar&feather for this, but......what about the fuel consumption?

(question asked purely for research and statistical purposes)

Shouldnt make any difference as what normally happens in 1-4 gears the timing is retarded to reduce power (poor mans traction control) and the timing is correct in 5th & 6th thus giving full wick.

ECM is a micro-controller preprogrammed by Suzuki to process various sensor input such as: air box pressure, intake air temperature, coolant temperature, base barometric pressures, camshaft position, crankshaft position, engine RPM, throttle position and notably, the transmission gear selected via the GPS

GPS The Gear position switch located behind the clutch pack on the right side of engine. This sensor provides a different resistance value for each of the 6 transmission gears, which in turn, provides 6 different voltages to the ECM allowing it to determine which gear the transmission is in at any given moment.

TRE installed between the GPS and ECM normally uses a 6.8K ohm resistance value to simulate 5th gear. The TRE is a means to bypass the excessively retarded ignition-timing present while in 1st thru 4th gears while below 4,000 RPM. Since ignition-timing provided by 5th gear proves far superior than that provided by 1st thru 4th gears while below 4,000 RPM, the TRE provides the means to endlessly invoke 5th gear ignition-timing while in all of the Hayabusa’s 6 transmission gears, which most noticeably improves engine performance (increasing low end grunt and engine smoothness) when operating below 4,000 RPM.

As I see it you shouldnt get any real adverse change in the Fuel consumption..
Enjoy.

[Cajun]

I have heard of people getting better fuel combustion, and the fuel combustion on my 600 from before and after the tre show little better fuel combustion

[imdying]

You mean consumption?

[Marmoot]

Just did 22 half-loop today down to huntly and back through Te-Kauwhata-Maramarua.

My question is: Where can I buy a self-restraint?

Just realized it's pretty hard to stick under 140.........

[Big Dog]

My question is: Where can I buy a self-restraint?

Sadly not even an aftermarket option.
Your only choice is to relax and keep in mind.
If you have no patience you will end up one sooner or later. Question is which ward!
Bloody hard to rein one in, which makes it just as well that they handle so well.

[terbang]

Just did 22 half-loop today down to huntly and back through Te-Kauwhata-Maramarua.

My question is: Where can I buy a self-restraint?

Just realized it's pretty hard to stick under 140.........

Yup I agree it is difficult took mine down from Tuakau to Ngarawahia and back today..Oooh its like a rough coro loop..the temptation was there but a recent $300 fine was there as well. Jeez these busas sure can fly..

[Balrog]

Hey All

Just got back from our Northland tour.
We rode from Wellington to Orewa on day one going up the coast to Wanganui then thru the
back roads up behind Taupo.
After staying at Orewa we went up to Russell via the Whakapara turn off thru the back roads.
The next day we took the Russell Ferry across to Paihia and then rode up to Pukenui where
we stayed at the most Northern Motel in the country.
After dumping all our gear at the motel we then road up to Cape Reinga.
It didn't take to long to get used to riding the Busa up the gravel road. We managed to
ride at 60 to 70kphs along most of the road. The worst part was the corrugations in the road
from all the tour buses. At one point I had to stop as my Radar detector had vibrated off the
suction cups holding it to the windshield. But they only occured on the way up the steep parts.
I've attached a couple of pics of the only bike in the Cape Reinga car park and the state of my chain after riding 50+ ks on loose gravel.

I'm pleased I was running a Scott Oiler
You can see my chain is covered in gravel dust and crap. All I had to do
was reach under my seat, turn the Scott Oiler up for 100ks or so and voila a nice clean ( oiled ) chain with the crap gone.

Next day saw us riding down the west coast of the North Island via Kaitaia, round the back roads
thru Manukau, Herekino, across the ferry from Kohukohu to Rawene then round the south head
thru Dargaville to Matakohe where we stayed that night.
Last two days were just making our way back to Wellington via the same route we took on the
way up.

We managed to hit that huge rain storm when we road thru Auckland. I've ridden in some
pretty shitty weather before but that wins the gold medal. The rain
was coming down so hard I could hardly see the the lines on the motorway. Any vehicle driving without
their lights on was nearly invisible.

The road from Wanganui up thru the National Park is a riders dream. Nice empty roads and just corner after corner.

We had one silly off. In Whangerei I decided to lower my idle as it was to high. Then pulling out into
traffic I stalled the bike, got off balance and we both fell off on the side of the road in the grass.
Lucky the R&G crash protectors saved the bike.
Wearing a helmet ( blush ) and nobody knowing me in Whangerei saved the pride