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    I enjoy riding motorbikes. Would never take any of that stuff as it really screws up your concentration and ability to control a motorcycle. Probably for days after you've actually taken the stuff.

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    Most of these 'Natural Herbal High' type pills are neither natural nor herbal, most contain a fair dollop (scientific meadurement as used by the manufacturer) of BZP (1-Benzyl piperazine) which is a totally synthetic drug originally developed as a de-worming drug for live-stock - but it caused siezures in the animals so was dropped, now humans take it?????


    In animals it takes 10mg per kg of body weight to cause siezures, the 'part-pill' volume is equal to 20mg per kg of body weight.

    Just thought y'all might like to know - and rest assured you won't have worms!!!

    P.S. The 'manufacurers' of these pills are a tad casual about how much of what they put into them due to lack of Government say-so, you could be paying good money for something really toxic - or you could be paying it for sweet F.A.
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    I don't have a story about drugs/alcohol but I do know that they f*ck ya up. If you have the sort of personality that 'wants more' either out of life or any sort of buzz that you're into then drugs/alcohol aren't for you.
    If you're coming out the other side, good on you, if you're currently using and no harn is done thats fine too. The main problem with our species is that nothing is ever enough and it may not be you or someone you know but there will those out there that'll make sure that we all no about the effects that can result in too much.
    Be safe KBers (and families and all) there are too many people out there who don't know when to stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog
    Most of these 'Natural Herbal High' type pills are neither natural nor herbal, most contain a fair dollop (scientific meadurement as used by the manufacturer) of BZP (1-Benzyl piperazine) which is a totally synthetic drug originally developed as a de-worming drug for live-stock - but it caused siezures in the animals so was dropped, now humans take it?????


    In animals it takes 10mg per kg of body weight to cause siezures, the 'part-pill' volume is equal to 20mg per kg of body weight.

    Just thought y'all might like to know - and rest assured you won't have worms!!!

    P.S. The 'manufacurers' of these pills are a tad casual about how much of what they put into them due to lack of Government say-so, you could be paying good money for something really toxic - or you could be paying it for sweet F.A.

    BZP is some nasty shit, especially with the way it's being sold to anyone who wants it from dairies and gas stations. It was originally designed as an alternative for P addicts to use to get themselves off it, but something went way wrong in the marketing and now everyone seems to be on it. The side effects are bad enough.. I'd hate to think how toxic it actually is to your body.

    Having said that however I do enjoy a bit of a smoke occasionally, but it's all about having a balanced lifestyle. Wanna have a smoke? Then go for a run or play some sports or do something constructive as well. I've met plenty of people who are fucked up by having a closed mind who are completely straight.

    I had a talk with the guy who originally brought BZP pills to market in Auckland last week. He's pretty disgusted with the way things have headed, so he's been doing some research into other substances which contain no BZP, but provide the same effect as mdma without as much of the toxicity. He's running a clinical trial of this stuff at the moment which is pretty fuckin good (or so I'm told) yet you feel fine the next day. No stomach cramps/wanting to die/unable to sleep. Sure he's going to make a crapload of money if this stuff gets to market, but at least it's a step towards reducing harm to the users and giving a legal alternative to people who would otherwise buy pills and possibly face jail.

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    Thumbs up

    I reckon the big differences are
    1. Occasional use
    2. Use
    3. Abuse

    Three very different things and therefore results.
    Abuse anything and I mean anything and it ain't no good now is it

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog
    Most of these 'Natural Herbal High' type pills are neither natural nor herbal, most contain a fair dollop (scientific meadurement as used by the manufacturer) of BZP (1-Benzyl piperazine) which is a totally synthetic drug originally developed as a de-worming drug for live-stock - but it caused siezures in the animals so was dropped, now humans take it?????


    In animals it takes 10mg per kg of body weight to cause siezures, the 'part-pill' volume is equal to 20mg per kg of body weight.

    Just thought y'all might like to know - and rest assured you won't have worms!!!

    P.S. The 'manufacurers' of these pills are a tad casual about how much of what they put into them due to lack of Government say-so, you could be paying good money for something really toxic - or you could be paying it for sweet F.A.
    Very interesting scumdog.....I have always wondered about these so called Herbal Pills lots of people go on about. Been offered them on a few occaisions and always been reluctant to try....now I know I will never try them. Thanks for the ino.
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    Drugs never hurt me, I'm just the same as I never was.
    Besides, if they can't kill Keith Richard they can't be that bad.
    Speed doesn't kill people.
    Stupidity kills people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    Besides, if they can't kill Keith Richard they can't be that bad.
    Keith's been brain dead for years... it just hasn't managed how to tell his heart to stop beating...
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    I thought that was the preservatives. There's so much drugs in that system there aint nothing alive in there not even the bugs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    Besides, if they can't kill Keith Richard they can't be that bad.
    lol, he looks like the walking dead....

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    yeah, what he said...

    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket
    Nah, good on you for being honest. Normal happy people take grugs for no other reason than they enjoy them.
    there are a lot of people on this list that have little or no experience with drugs that are very quick to label drug users as addicts or morons.

    remember how we hate to be called idiots because we ride those nasty dangerous motorbikes?

    and then there are a few people on this list who have had some serious "disco days" in their past, and have moved on, as you do.

    remember, being called an idiot by someone who has no idea what they are talking about is still irritating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder
    Keith's been brain dead for years... it just hasn't managed how to tell his heart to stop beating...
    Then he's playing those riffs by instinct. He'll need a sound proof coffin for sure.
    Speed doesn't kill people.
    Stupidity kills people.

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    Don't get me started on the whole crock of shit that goes with the words "recreational drugs". The only people fooled by such a description are those who use them. Self-medication with mind-altering substances is a very seductive and dangerous space. Avoid at all costs.
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    Would you class alcohol as a 'recreational drug'? Genuine question.

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit
    Would you class alcohol as a 'recreational drug'? Genuine question.


    ahhhhhhhh yep as alcohol is classed as a drug.
    IMHO.

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