Mind altering drugs... rant

**ManDownUnder** · 23rd December 2005, 10:56

Just something on my mind... rant warning...

This year I've had the pleasure of meeting some bloody amasing people who have "survived" drugs. Their lives have been affected by them, and/or they came out the far side - seemingly richer in experience, but having lost something at the same time/in the process.

One of them is on here - he can introduce himself if he sees the need - and if not... Either way - you have my respect. The fact you're a good bastard doesn't hurt.

Others (not on here) carry on despite the hardships or adversities they did face or are currently facing.

For the record - they're fucken awful things. I can't imagine the amount of damage they do, but the good they do seems pretty bloody paltry - a buzz for a bit - oh yay. Anyone out there using, or thinking of using them... sort your shit out. If you need help get it, and if you don't need help, get it anyway.

I'll stop now - I'm not sure if I'm making a tit of myself or not, but it's on my mind...

end rant
MDU

**R1** · 23rd December 2005, 11:04

drugs are fine, but only for recreational use!! i know people that have been taking them for years insteed of drinking (just on the weekends and stuff) and I havnt seen any adverse affects, im not saying there aint any, and if taken all the time then yes they will fuck you up...

just my observations...

it all depends what sort of person you are and why you are taking the drugs i think, if its just a bit of weekend fun then sure, but i wouldnt suggest using them if ya depresed etc

**scumdog** · 23rd December 2005, 11:10

Hmm, first time you do any drug is the 'iffy' time - it may affect you in the way it normally would be expected to - or if you're the unfortunate 'rare' person it may fry some part of your brain for life.

**yungatart** · 23rd December 2005, 11:16

I have seen three generations of one family totally ruined by drugs- yeah, they're all surviving-in prison, foster care, psych units- but they aren't living. My advice - FWIW- stay away from them

**Grahameeboy** · 23rd December 2005, 11:16

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Just something on my mind... rant warning...

This year I've had the pleasure of meeting some bloody amasing people who have "survived" drugs. There lives have been affected by them, and/or they came out the far side - seemingly richer in experience, but having lost something at the same time/in the process.

One of them is on here - he can introduce himself if he sees the need - and if not. Either way - you have my respect. The fact your a good bastard doesn't hurt.

Others (not on here) carry on despite the hardships or adversities they did face or are currently facing.

For the record - they're fucken awful things. I can't imagine the amount of damage they do, but the good they do seems pretty bloody paltry - a buzz for a bit - oh yay. Anyone out there using, or thinking of using them... sort your shit out. If you need help get it, and if you don't need help, get it anyway.

I'll stop now - I'm not sure if I'm making a tit of myself or not, but it's on my mind...

end rant
MDU

Nah you are not making a tit of yourself and good on you for speaking out......but in the same breath we are all fragile so we still have to have some compassion and help those who need it.
I personally have a lot to cope with having a disabled Daughter and a Wife who ran away and 'acceptance' not drugs is the only way to deal with things plus being able to escape on my SV is better than any drugs.....plus of course my gorgeous little girl...Anyway, who needs drugs wen you have this site eh? What ever some may say about the moaning etc all the KB guys/gals are cool.
Merry Christmas and take care you guys.....
:-)

**Waylander** · 23rd December 2005, 11:22

It's not the illigals I mind so much as the ones the doctors keep trying to feed me.

**Grahameeboy** · 23rd December 2005, 11:25

Originally Posted by Waylander

It's not the illigals I mind so much as the ones the doctors keep trying to feed me.

Are you sure they are real Doctors??

**Waylander** · 23rd December 2005, 11:27

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Are you sure they are real Doctors??

They seem to be, although no one else is able to see them at times.

**Goblin** · 23rd December 2005, 11:28

Because recreational drugs can't be monitored or regulated, they can be dangerous. What really gets on my wick is doctors who prescride "Mind Altering" drugs(all the pams eg:clonazapam, diazapam, amitriptaline etc...) and prozac and such, without doing any tests for why they have these symptoms. Often it can be something as simple as a lack of iron in the diet. People who go to doctors feeling "down" will willingly take any drug a doctor prescribes and think its ok cos doctor said so. And these same people have the cheek to call pot smokers junkies...WTF is with that?

**Grahameeboy** · 23rd December 2005, 11:30

Originally Posted by Waylander

They seem to be, although no one else is able to see them at times.

Arrhh....those kind eh?.......do you find that at times you feel tied down unable to move your arms.......or if you are really unlucky, unable to fart??

**DMNTD:Me** · 23rd December 2005, 11:32

The fact is is that they will screw ya up eventually ..I know.
Yet in my opinion what's wrong with a "puff" on occassion? A lot less negatives than piss that's for sure. Sad when people judge drugs by the gross missuse by idiots.
I've had more problems with a decade of painkillers from the doc! Terrible stuff,bad side effects.

**Waylander** · 23rd December 2005, 11:35

Nah can't say that I have. Though there have been times when my arms did not feel asif they were under my control. I could move them but they didn't go where I wanted them to and it didn't feel like I was the one moving them. Only time I've had trouble farting is when I'mon the bike. Seat doesn't seem to let air flow so I have to lift up a bit to let it out. Is that the reason sportbike riders hop around on and off the seat so much?

**Str8 Jacket** · 23rd December 2005, 11:35

My aunty is bipolar schzicophrenic (sp??) she is in her 60's now. She is unablr to look after herself and cannot be around people for very long... A few years ago I was having a ciggie with her one Xmas and she started asking me about drugs and if id tried any... she told me how she was once head girl of Dio... College (auck) she was really bright and had no worries. When she was 22 she tried acid for the first time, she has been mentally ill since. Im not saying I dont try drugs, nor do I judge those that do, however this is always in the back of my mind...

BTW, my sig is kind of ironic....

**onearmedbandit** · 23rd December 2005, 11:38

Originally Posted by yungatart

I have seen three generations of one family totally ruined by drugs- yeah, they're all surviving-in prison, foster care, psych units- but they aren't living. My advice - FWIW- stay away from them

Stay away from this family, no problem. But hey lets face it how many peoples lives have been destroyed by alcohol. Sorry to bring it up, but I get sick and tired of people generalising with drugs and ignoring alcohol. Yes I do use marijuana regularly, not because of so-called pain relief but because I enjoy it. I enjoy it a lot more than alcohol without a doubt. I've been a regular smoker for a long long time now. I'm in good health, I manage a large car yard with 15 staff under me, I have a beautiful daughter who is fit, smart, confident, funny. I have a wonderfdul wife who doesn't smoke anything or drink and I have another child on the way. I do not need help, however those who think I do should maybe look in the mirror before generalising me and drugs.

I also don't mind chomping on the odd tab, never had any issues with that either.

Flame away.

**Str8 Jacket** · 23rd December 2005, 11:41

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Stay away from this family, no problem. But hey lets face it how many peoples lives have been destroyed by alcohol. Sorry to bring it up, but I get sick and tired of people generalising with drugs and ignoring alcohol. Yes I do use marijuana regularly, not because of so-called pain relief but because I enjoy it. I enjoy it a lot more than alcohol without a doubt. I've been a regular smoker for a long long time now. I'm in good health, I manage a large car yard with 15 staff under me, I have a beautiful daughter who is fit, smart, confident, funny. I have a wonderfdul wife who doesn't smoke anything or drink and I have another child on the way. I do not need help, however those who think I do should maybe look in the mirror before generalising me and drugs.

I also don't mind chomping on the odd tab, never had any issues with that either.

Flame away.

Nah, good on you for being honest. Normal happy people take grugs for no other reason than they enjoy them.