Bucket photos

**GN1NiteStnd** · 29th December 2005, 13:52

Originally Posted by RG100!!

Screw that honda shite!! go get your self a Suzuki or Kawasaki!!

mine its the Creme of bucket bikes

I beg to differ, mr rg100

**froggyfrenchman** · 29th December 2005, 13:54

Originally Posted by GN1NiteStnd

I beg to differ, mr rg100

Whoops, was logged in as the missis again

**Buddha#81:Me** · 29th December 2005, 14:01

Originally Posted by RG100!!

fuck no!!! FXR 150 aint that fast..... mine gets its arse kicked by three 50cc bikes in wellington...... and lets not even go near the 100cc two strokes

they are a good bike.... faster than most stock, but still aint no wonder machines

That may be true on cart tracks and car parks, in Chch we race at Ruapuna (more open and shit loads faster) this allows the fxr's to build up a good head of steam and good riders will hold good corner speed. Granted the fastest bikes in Chch are both 2 stroke Mb powered early RS125 chassised bikes.

As for Having your arse kicked by 50cc bikes maybe you should be riding harder?

**dangerous** · 29th December 2005, 15:31

Originally Posted by RG100!!

Hondas suck!!
Screw that honda shite!! go get your self a Suzuki or Kawasaki!!

mine its the Creme of bucket bikes

Originally Posted by RG100!!

fuck no!!! FXR 150 aint that fast..... mine gets its arse kicked by three 50cc bikes in wellington...... and lets not even go near the 100cc two strokes

they are a good bike.... faster than most stock, but still aint no wonder machines

If honda's suck then I take it you get your arse wiped by them every time

quote #2 is a tad contradictory to quote quote #1 is it not

What SR says is correct the FXR's are fast down here, I also dont believe thay should be in the same class as a shitty old MB, CB or GP's as a lot of money is needed in order to keep up with them.
And um if you are having ya arse kicked by 50cc bikes..... ya better learn to ride faster

**Bert** · 29th December 2005, 16:04

They are 3 seriously fast 50's.
but i do feel that everyone is right about leting four stroke but to 150 into F4, it does go abit against the sprit of buckets,
but in saying that so are RS125 chassis ?
i guess things have to change.
we'll just have to show some skill to beat them..
GO TWO STROKES.....

**Skunk** · 29th December 2005, 16:38

Originally Posted by Gixxer 4 ever

What do you mean was?

I'm hacking at it. Trying to do something with the front end and brakes, rearsets if I can find some, clipons if the $20 budget will go that far.

**Buddha#81:Me** · 29th December 2005, 17:51

Im running a cb developed to 150cc but it still has 1970's technology (sohc head etc). I have enjoyed developing the engine but would have to sink serious $ to have anything like a warm fxr engine. As for the RS chassis it still takes some skill to shoehorn other powerplants into the early chassis.
What Im trying to say is that F4, F5, miniture road racing, is heading towards chequebook racing not what the classes are intented to be (i dont think). But to quote a letter in our bucket newsletter down here "the rules are the rules" we have to just get on with it. I will be keeping an eye out for a cheap RG150 they will be the next to become eligible.

**speedpro** · 29th December 2005, 20:27

The FXRs may be expensive (relatively) but to get a bucket going "fast" costs $$$ as well. I think that speed/$ would be similar for the FXR or say a CB125T. The problem will be when someone does serious development on a FXR. Having said that they are never going to be as fast as a fast 100cc 2-stroke, one that has been built to the original bucket rules but with modern engineering. As an example Nigel Duff's bucket makes 27.5hp at the rear wheel and it is conservatively tuned, no scummy FXR is going to get near it.
There has always been some talented individuals who have been able to build fast buckets and others like me who have done some of the work and paid others to do the rest. Either way, and it's the same in any motorsport, you either build it yourself or pay someone else. To go faster than someone else you either need more talent or more money. How fast do you want to go, how much money do you want to spend? They're tied together, and there is always someone willing to up the ante.

**hXc** · 29th December 2005, 20:29

My CT125 makes about 24hp at the rear wheel

**speedpro** · 29th December 2005, 20:37

Originally Posted by hXc

My CT125 makes about 24hp at the rear wheel

That is pretty impressive considering that Pete Sales, a clever guy when it comes to making things go fast, could only get 22.5hp out of his CB125, and it used to "fail" semi-regularly. John Connor got Karl Morgan's CB125T going pretty good and I'm sure it still made less than 20hp, it handled real good though and Karl rode it which helped of course.

**froggyfrenchman** · 29th December 2005, 20:43

Should put the Deluxe on a dyno, hopefully it has round 22 ponys at the wheel. How did you come to the 24hp conclusion hxc?

**hXc** · 29th December 2005, 20:47

Originally Posted by froggyfrenchman

Should put the Deluxe on a dyno, hopefully it has round 22 ponys at the wheel. How did you come to the 24hp conclusion hxc?

It's Mikes indication. Don't know how he figured it out but it's probably a guess

**dangerous** · 29th December 2005, 20:49

Originally Posted by speedpro

How fast do you want to go?

just a fraction faster than kickaha...... thats all

**Sketchy_Racer** · 29th December 2005, 21:25

Originally Posted by speedpro

The FXRs may be expensive (relatively) but to get a bucket going "fast" costs $$$ as well. I think that speed/$ would be similar for the FXR or say a CB125T. The problem will be when someone does serious development on a FXR. Having said that they are never going to be as fast as a fast 100cc 2-stroke, one that has been built to the original bucket rules but with modern engineering. As an example Nigel Duff's bucket makes 27.5hp at the rear wheel and it is conservatively tuned, no scummy FXR is going to get near it.
There has always been some talented individuals who have been able to build fast buckets and others like me who have done some of the work and paid others to do the rest. Either way, and it's the same in any motorsport, you either build it yourself or pay someone else. To go faster than someone else you either need more talent or more money. How fast do you want to go, how much money do you want to spend? They're tied together, and there is always someone willing to up the ante.

EXCELENT!!

this is the point i was trying to make.

oh and Dangerous, if you dont know, there are 2 x 50cc buckets making more than 15 hp..... the fxr makes 11.5 on the dyno stock... i really dont think that FXRs are gonna be hugely compeditive, a MB100 making 20 hp in a RS125 frame will kick arse.... it will be absolutely nuts..... so we better watch out when F5Dave get his one finished.

Cheers, Glenn