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[Ixion]

Ah. The PM's. Not seen any (or received any nasty ones) m'self. But I have heard a bit . I seriously wonder if the PM system isn't more hassle than it's worth. It does , reputedly, engender a lot of unpleasantness.

[Motu]

I'm not into communication at all,and I guess that's one of the reasons I'm into bikes...it's my little world where I can express emotions,and explore engineering possibilities,I don't need anyone else there.But I do think,and what I am too shy to say in person I can express on these forums....kinda sad in an Anorak kind of way.Just think if Burt Munro had a computer linked to the outside world in his shed,to express and explore his ideas....

And like Jim I'm real disapointed in the dribble appearing on this board....i used to read everything,now I can't be bothered looking at a fraction of whats posted.

[slowguy]

I second that opinion, the crap to good stuff ratio has slid downhill in a big way

[Sniper]

Oh - and I'm 6'9", 180Kgs of pure muscle and a second dan in Tofu.

BIFF WAKE UP!!!!!

[cowpoos]

I second that opinion, the crap to good stuff ratio has slid downhill in a big way

funny that....not any where near the amount of constructive questions asked any more....people post whats happening in there biking lives....

I reckon alot of people on here wouldn't get along with alot of people on here in real life...so why should they on here...Piffft....

one thing there is too much of these days on here is bitching threads... go hav a beer or wine and lighten up....just coz its not your way....dosn't mean its the only way to be....

[manuboy]

I reckon alot of people on here wouldn't get along with alot of people on here in real life...so why should they on here...Piffft....

They should get on (to a point) because its voluntary membership. Those that seem to be slowly opting out are contributing to your supposed "lack of quality Q's and probably more importantly quality A's because some of the quality members are now no longer posting.

Their own call you might say. Partly yes. Then we come back to the BS PM's i mentioned. And it becomes obvious that you can either stick round on a forum with the likes of the originators, or just shrug ya shoulders and admit what was once a great bunch of apples with the odd rough post is no longer playing by what should have been so pretty basic and common sense rules.

So the mods step and typically get the same treatment.

i can name 2-3 of the top 5 most constructive posters when i joined now not posting - wouldn't worry me if it was peeps that didn't have anything constructive to say - but we're talking the cream here.

Anyway - it ain't all doom and gloom. And it's not about bitching an moaning. These threads are about trying to reign in the BS and give us a chance to self govern. If we're grown up enough to realise it that is...

[Zed]

I second that opinion, the crap to good stuff ratio has slid downhill in a big way

When did you form that opinion??

Welcome to the site btw!!!

[zadok]

I'm not into communication at all...
And like Jim I'm real disapointed in the dribble appearing on this board....i used to read everything,now I can't be bothered looking at a fraction of whats posted.

Says he with 5,587 posts! I'm with you on the last comment.

[Storm]

Zed- it was moi posting, as I got in to difficulties with my password so just created a new account
Thanks for the welcome though, seems the KB spirit hasnt carked it just yet :

[Zed]

Zed- it was moi posting, as I got in to difficulties with my password so just created a new account :

You're a dodgy character mate!

[trumpy]

Thanks for the post Jim, eloquently put. Your'e right about the medium and its growth and potential. For my parents (who are now in their early 80's) the concept of interacting, sometimes several times daily, with something that in many ways doesn't even exist, is a paradigm shift they are unable/unwilling to make. This in only one generation.

For all your concerns, and those expressed by others in response to your post, for many of us this forum has a huge number of positives. In my 53 years on this earth (God, has it been that long...feels like a lot less) I have learned to ignore bullshit and and accept good natured (and possibly some not quite so good) banter/ribbing for what it is, a valid, and often very funny way for many people to express what they feel for the people they know and respect while often still communicating a very important point. Sometimes you have to scratch around for the good stuff; it doesn't just smack you in the face when it is sent. Witness also the genuine out pouring of care that arises on this site when any biker (site member or not) is down.

One of the reasons I left motor sport (aside from the horrendous costs for very little track time) was the fact that you HAD to belong to a club. Having been not only a club member but having also served on a number of committees, I grew tired of the continual power games that go along with having an organised structure that actually owns things. Most of the infighting was behind backs/doors/buildings etc however few (read none) had the courage to say what they believed directly to the person concerned. Sound familiar to some of you?

The joy of this site is that there is NO formal structure, there are no Presidents, Secretaries, treasurers etc all looking to improve their status or hold onto their little patch of power. (or did I miss something here?) Yes I know there are many dedicated clubbies out there who do a fine job for their chosen organisation, but human nature is what it is and most clubs suffer from the maladies mentioned.

Personally I find find the candour with which many on this site say what they have to say very refreshing. Playing a game of trying to find out what other people's paradigms are and then challenging them is something we all do to a greater or lesser extent, the problem arises when someone either doesn't understand the game, or forgets they are in one. Like others have already stated, some people really need to lighten up!
Having said that, one of the awful realities of life is that while most of us are reasonable, intelligent people learning from our and other peoples mistakes (ain't observation a wonderful thing) there will unfortunately always be a small group of people who will probably spend their entire lives wallowing in their own stupidity and there is very little any of us can do about that.......

That's it......finished my rant.

[Skyryder]

For those that get pissed off with all the crap there's the ignore button. That way you can turn a shit hot forum into a boring one. For me I just love it the way it is. This forum has everything. Info, ideas, Bike news etc. And some bloody good humour. So the language gets a bit ripe, so what. No ones complaing about the chick giving some bike a blow job on the home page.

Seems to me some of the moderataors are trying to turn this forum into a vehicle of their own. It's a bikers site not croquet club. Get with the programme J2 and stop trying make us into some thing that we are not.

Skyryder

[Zed]

...No ones complaing about the chick giving some bike a blow job on the home page.

Really? Is it still there i wonder, oh no it's gone, doh? And it wasn't me who complained...was a tad embarrasing though, a girlfriend of my Mrs was over the other night and i showed her KB only to be greeted by that avatar!

Get with the programme J2 and stop trying make us into some thing that we are not.

Can always count on you for some controversy Skyrider! I think you just semi-proved Jims point.

[Skyryder]

Really? Is it still there i wonder, oh no it's gone, doh? And it wasn't me who complained...was a tad embarrasing though, a girlfriend of my Mrs was over the other night and i showed her KB only to be greeted by that avatar!

Can always count on you for some controversy Skyrider! I think you just semi-proved Jims point.

There are times Zed when you realy crack me up. I've seen that avatar many times and have not taken the slightes bit of interest in it. In fact it was not untill just a few days ago that I noticed what it was. Your 'Mrs' girlfriend sees it and instantly recogniszes it for what it is. That is my point Zed and you and J2 and others who want to turn this site into a parody of themselves fail to see this. This forum is frequented by a 'many' varied lot. Because of the nature of this site that allows uncensored posts, where language ideas and yes even insults to, flow forth indiscrimantly is what makes the Kiwi biker forum unique. If others want to project their forum personaility in the same light as the personal personality then who am I to complain. But I don't want to. My forum name is Skyryder and that's whose personilty this forum will get. My real name is something else and so is my real personility.

J2 and others seem to miss this distinction probalby because their forum personilty is no differet from their real one. OK that's their choice. I've made a different one. That's my choice.

Skyryder

[Zed]

...Your 'Mrs' girlfriend sees it and instantly recogniszes it for what it is.

No actually, I recognised it in her presence, in silence of course, she didn't even flinch, i was the one who felt embarrassed by it. Anyway, go on imagining what you like. And stop giving J2 a hard time for what most others have recognised as a decent thread! :spudwhat: