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[Reckless]

Good idea - cut out the OT posts and place them in a separate PD thread so they can continue. That way interesting discussions don't suddenly disappear.

My Idea was the have a forum called "the pub" like in the main list and leave the rant and rave for real issues like bike law, current affairs etc. As most of the reason for threads going off track are because people are seein the funny side of things, or havin someone on etc. Or when someone wants to do a bike/babe thread. Basicaly what we do in the pub when we all ride together.
Same general rules apply No abuse etc etc. And it woudn't show up in "new Posts so you could only go there on purpose, that would keep the prudes happy. Off topic parts of threads could be moved there and the original carry on. This is normal conversation anyway how many times have you started chatting about your bike or how Rossi's doing and ended up so far off topic you don't know how you got there.

But they tell me PD is like this anyway you can post etc etc so no need for the above.

[merv]

I still can't believe the mods put anything in PD except abusive stuff because the threads should be left to have a life just like normal conversation flows when you're chewing the fat together. Sitting at a cafe like we were at Wild Oats yesterday if someone goes off topic we don't make them go sit at another table, we just laugh and have fun, like when BB#1 called Kinje Cringe.

I don't get it why such a fuss to keep stuff so pure - its not a disk space issue coz its put in PD anyway, so why TF just not leave it to live and we can stay friendly and happy?

Do mods not get sick of bureacracy in their working life like the rest of us so that here should be fun and not officious?

[Hitcher]

Believe me, Mods have better things to do than randomly move shit around.

[merv]

Believe me, Mods have better things to do than randomly move shit around.

So why does it happen coz its not all abusive stuff you move?

Like why was this fun thread even moved at all http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=52206 ?

Lissa talked to me about it yesterday and while it was about her she was enjoying the thread too and had no complaints. Seems like some mod didn't have better things to do.

[James Deuce]

It's a public written communication medium, not a verbal private communication.

[merv]

It's a public written communication medium, not a verbal private communication.

... geez I thought it was a forum.

The threads are even under the name of Kiwi Biker Forums.

[Hitcher]

Like why was this fun thread even moved at all http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=52206

I shall investigate.

Sometimes threads are clearly of the "Look at Moi!" type; or nothing more than MSN "conversations" in the wrong medium; or flagrant attempts to boost post count; not to mention the stuff that is vicious, vindictive, racist, bigoted or defamatory. I'm not against threads that are good fun or harmless banter. At the end of the day, it's up to a Moderator to exercise discretion.

[Reckless]

Hitch maybe a Place called "the pub" as suggested above might be less offensive to people when the conversation drifts to general banter. Or even in the first instance it could have been posted there. "a blond moment" is the type of thing you'd relay over a beer, wine or coffee. It might be better than the same place wiith all the red background where the bad people go if they are caught doing bad stuff. Although its the sort of harmless post that goes on all the time in the Angels forum. Lissa to my mind is exactly the good fun type of person we want here if we piss off all the lissa type people we will only be left with the boring farts

I agree with Merv moving it was a bit harsh. You guys have to be careful not the change things so much people don't want to come and interact. As said above bring the rucking back we are bikers.

Interaction is fun you know specially with girls.

[Winston001]

I don't get it why such a fuss to keep stuff so pure - its not a disk space issue coz its put in PD anyway, so why TF just not leave it to live and we can stay friendly and happy?

The problem is, this is a busy site. A discussion can start on a subject and after a few posts go off topic very quickly. If it goes onto a second page, a member might jump straight to the second page (I know I do) to see what it is about.

The original point for discussion gets totally lost and people can't be bothered reading pages of posts just to find out what the issues really are. There are just too many other threads to look over instead.

Also there doesn't seem much point in posting on-topic when everyone else is ignoring it.

So if a thread goes wildly sideways, I can't see the harm in excising posts and placing them elsewhere. Only when a mod feels so inclined - after all, we are simply guests, not owners.

[Hitcher]

If the issue was as simple as threads going off topic, I'd be reasonably relaxed. However a pattern is for them to go off topic, for a bit of the personal aggro to start, a few red reps to get thrown around, and then sit back and wait for the mortally wounded to start sobbing to the Mods. A bit of pre-emptive thread management often assuages tears before bedtime.

A wise person once said "Treat people like adults and they'll respond like adults". I suspect this learned soul would turn in their grave if they ever met an Internet forum...

[Winston001]

If the issue was as simple as threads going off topic, I'd be reasonably relaxed. However a pattern is for them to go off topic, for a bit of the personal aggro to start, a few red reps to get thrown around, and then sit back and wait for the mortally wounded to start sobbing to the Mods. A bit of pre-emptive thread management often assuages tears before bedtime.

A wise person once said "Treat people like adults and they'll respond like adults". I suspect this learned soul would turn in their grave if they ever met an Internet forum...

I know but it's a hard call for any moderator to make. This is a wildly successful forum because of some wildly outrageous posts. They are funny. I guess the line has to be drawn when personal abuse means that mild decent people simply leave.

[Hitcher]

I know but it's a hard call for any moderator to make. This is a wildly successful forum because of some wildly outrageous posts. They are funny. I guess the line has to be drawn when personal abuse means that mild decent people simply leave.

You've got it in one.