why i hate this time of year

**skidMark** · 7th January 2006, 14:22

....night fever night feverrrrrr ....don't even know if that in it or if in right decade:P lol

**Karma** · 7th January 2006, 14:26

What about all that live 8 eh? what happened to the one before... 20odd years ago and what is there to show for it?

What about King Mswati III of Swaziland... spent £8.3million on building eight palaces... and a year or two back spent £27million on a royal jet... why then are there starving people in his country?

I believe the old saying is - God helps those who help themselves.

**StoneChucker** · 7th January 2006, 14:29

Indy is right. It's depressing to think of certain countries who either can't budget, or who have really questionable priorities. They devellop their military and arms so that they are sometimes a formidible force, but let their people starve and squalour (sp.) in shyteholes. Is that the difference between civilised and uncivilised?

**Pixie** · 7th January 2006, 14:39

nobody addresses the consequences if they all survive to reproduce

**myvice** · 7th January 2006, 14:40

Countries that spend millions on weapons when they have starving people and other social problems, lets list them... well theirs America...

**Colapop** · 7th January 2006, 14:46

Is the question feed the starving, and save a life or educate the remainder and protect the future? Is education merely a term for imposing a different cultural attitude upon those people who's culture and beliefs are different to our own? Do we/you sponsor a child and give them a chance to grow to be an adult only to repeat the cycle or continue to reinforce the ranks of the (current) rebelious armies?

I have problems in my life, whether to study or not, decisions about which bills to pay, whther or not I need a new bike. Perspective tells me I don't have to wonder where or what my next meal will be, whether my kids will see tomorrow, or whether this will be my last firefight. The decision is ultimately your own, it's just perspective that makes the difference.

**Fatjim** · 7th January 2006, 14:51

Originally Posted by StoneChucker

Indy is right. It's depressing to think of certain countries who either can't budget, or who have really questionable priorities. They devellop their military and arms so that they are sometimes a formidible force, but let their people starve and squalour (sp.) in shyteholes. Is that the difference between civilised and uncivilised?

I feel a "guns for the poor" charity event coming on.

**Jantar** · 7th January 2006, 14:57

Originally Posted by myvice

Countries that spend millions on weapons when they have starving people and other social problems, lets list them... well theirs America...

That's a pretty short list. Are you sure that there are no others that should be on the list?

I refuse to donate to charitable causes based in countries with massive arms programs. I recall seeing a documentary on starving people in Ethiopia but in the documentary were countless RPGs at many $000s each. Aircraft that made our A4s look as old as they actually were etc. I figure if those governments can afford such weaponary then they don't need aid.

**TonyB** · 7th January 2006, 14:59

Originally Posted by markauckland

Problem : sponser a child they are all dying....

Solution: give all the parents condoms so they can stop breading like rabbits.

I used to think like that. So did MrsB. We were absolutely 100% confident that it was pointless to sponsor a child, because as we saw it the problem was that "they breed too much".

Then we had kids of our own. Changed our minds very quickly that did.
I saw a program once where they actually talked to a few Africans rather than just theorising. They all said that believe it or not, having more kids helps spread the workload. You can't just turn on a tap. Someone has to get the water- sometimes that can take hours. You can't buy bread... you can't even buy flour... you grind the flour and THEN make the bread. Someone has top gather the wood for the fire...and so it goes on. Lifes very different there. Many hands make light work. Though personally, having two small kids, I reckon they're nuts LOL, surely it would be easier to live in a village/ commune situation? But then I've never had to live like that. Plus, as we all know from reality TV, every week they all have to get together and vote someone off...

Often many of these kids are starving because of war or small scale conflict. Fighters come in and destroy or steal their crops. There's no supermarket to drive to. No car to drive in. Dads been captured/ forced to fight/ killed.

For years now I've had the theory that Oxfam etc need to target their ads at men. I reckon they are all targeted at women, perhaps unitentionally, but I think they are. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I reckon guys are less likely to shell out their hard earned drinking/ petrol/ tyre/ golf money than women.
I reckon they should try an ad specifically targeted at blokes. You get a bunch of sporting personalities. A couple of Rugby and League guys, a Greg Murphy or two, and MX riders and Superbike riders. Send them off on a trip to some of the hard areas in Africa, and document their reactions to what they see. A bit of carefully selected blokey background music- say "On the turning away"- Pink Floyd and I reckon they'd start pulling in $$ from an as yet un-tapped demographic. Then again, I could be wrong:spudwhat:

**Lias** · 7th January 2006, 16:30

Incoming rant (TM)

This is an issue thats been pissing me off lately.. My poor missus has had to put up with my rants every time I see one of these ads on telly (thankfully I dont watch much TV, it rots the brain..)

I swear to god I'm about ready to sit their and chain dial the 0800 numbers these bleeding heart liberal cunts show on TV with my cellphone, to see how many thousands in call charges I can rack up for them as revenge against their ads.

My other thought was to start a competing organisation called bulletfund, for every dollar you donate we will shoot one useless waste of space in a 3rd world nation to help prevent overpopulation. Whos with me?

As far as I'm concerned,. it should be ILLEGAL to donate money to starving children in Africa/India/wherever the fuck, while we still have poverty in our country. A pox apon anyone who lacks that national pride to donate only to NZ charities instead of pouring money into the 3rd world.

**hXc** · 7th January 2006, 17:03

Originally Posted by Lias

Incoming rant (TM)

This is an issue thats been pissing me off lately.. My poor missus has had to put up with my rants every time I see one of these ads on telly (thankfully I dont watch much TV, it rots the brain..)

I swear to god I'm about ready to sit their and chain dial the 0800 numbers these bleeding heart liberal cunts show on TV with my cellphone, to see how many thousands in call charges I can rack up for them as revenge against their ads.

My other thought was to start a competing organisation called bulletfund, for every dollar you donate we will shoot one useless waste of space in a 3rd world nation to help prevent overpopulation. Whos with me?

As far as I'm concerned,. it should be ILLEGAL to donate money to starving children in Africa/India/wherever the fuck, while we still have poverty in our country. A pox apon anyone who lacks that national pride to donate only to NZ charities instead of pouring money into the 3rd world.

I think that this bulletfund idea is wrong and sad but you are correct about donating to 3rd world countries when we have poverty in New Zealand. Just look at (Generalizing here but...) South Auckland, Flaxmere, Camberly, Maraenui, Waitara etc etc. Those places are just places I know of and can think of off the top of my head

**yungatart** · 7th January 2006, 17:19

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

I just feel sick sometimes when I see people asking me to sponsor a child living in India etc.....hold the f*ck on, their government has nuke up to the arm pits, but they spend nothing on their people. Now I know it's not the average persons fault, I have no grudge on them. So what we need to do is remove the shite governments.

ignore that, it's that time of the month for me

-Indy

But in the mean time these countries have corrupt governments who have dubious priorities. So, blame the poor populous, keep them poor, uneducated and starving. Yeah, I can see that fixing the problem.

**Indiana_Jones** · 7th January 2006, 17:29

Originally Posted by yungatart

But in the mean time these countries have corrupt governments who have dubious priorities. So, blame the poor populous, keep them poor, uneducated and starving. Yeah, I can see that fixing the problem.

But I'm blaming the govts etc, they need to be removed, by some outside force, or by the people. maybe in theory if you let them get oppressed to such a level that they might take action themselves

-Indy

**yungatart** · 7th January 2006, 17:50

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

But I'm blaming the govts etc, they need to be removed, by some outside force, or by the people. maybe in theory if you let them get oppressed to such a level that they might take action themselves

-Indy

Nah- ever heard that the pen is mightier than the sword- but first the people need to know how to use it i.e. education