Networking (LAN) Imac + linux box

[Posh Tourer :P]

Progress....

After restarting the linux box after creating a samba user on the mac, I now get teh following screenshots in order...

However, while looking at the imac on the linux box, the imac does not recognise the linux box. when I stop accessing the imac from the linux (on filebrowser), I can see the linux box on the imac.

BUT.... I still cant see the shares from the linux box, on the imac. It still does as per first post. I have tried to set up all the samba users as no password users. Perhaps the linux box still wants passwords for filesharing and network access? and if so, how can I stop it doing that (without using Konquerer - default system on Ubuntu is GNOME). When I installed ubuntu, it told me I could not have a null password on the account, otherwise that is what I would have tried.

[limbimtimwim]

However, while looking at the imac on the linux box, the imac does not recognise the linux box. when I stop accessing the imac from the linux (on filebrowser), I can see the linux box on the imac.

I don't quite understand what you mean, but that sounds weird. Really weird. Can you please paste in the output of ifconfig? I am interested.

BUT.... I still cant see the shares from the linux box, on the imac. It still does as per first post. I have tried to set up all the samba users as no password users.

I am confused. You can't see the shares you are exporting from the linux machine on the imac?

[Posh Tourer :P]

I don't quite understand what you mean, but that sounds weird. Really weird. Can you please paste in the output of ifconfig? I am interested.I am confused. You can't see the shares you are exporting from the linux machine on the imac?

Ok I will double check that first point. Perhaps both machines are trying to be servers?? Is that a problem?? As it stands, I can see files from the imac on the linux box, but not vice versa. I do have to enter some passwords to get to see the imac files on the linux box, but I never get to that point on the imac. Perhaps this is the problem.

You want ifconfig from the linux machine?? what is the path? I have no idea where things are on linux/mac - the only one I used to know well(ish) was Amiga.......

second, yes that is correct. I click connect (to see shares on the linux machine) in finder on the Mac and it gets stuck. I have to force quit on finder.

[limbimtimwim]

Ok I will double check that first point. Perhaps both machines are trying to be servers?? Is that a problem?? As it stands, I can see files from the imac on the linux box, but not vice versa. I do have to enter some passwords to get to see the imac files on the linux box, but I never get to that point on the imac. Perhaps this is the problem.

Nah, samba the 'server' actually has nothing to do with samba the 'client', you don't need samba the 'server' to be a client to the iMac.

You want ifconfig from the linux machine?? what is the path? I have no idea where things are on linux/mac - the only one I used to know well(ish) was Amiga.......

Ahh, the Amiga. '/sbin/ifconfig' It should be in the same place on the iMac, but I am not sure.

second, yes that is correct. I click connect (to see shares on the linux machine) in finder on the Mac and it gets stuck. I have to force quit on finder.

If you do 'smbclient -L localhost' now that you have created the samba users on the linux box, following all the instructions from http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/...t-samba-server do you get a list of shares that you have created now?

I wouldn't trust a stupid GUI to setup the shares properly, read the doco instead and hack the /etc/samba/smb.conf as it suggests.

[Posh Tourer :P]

If you do 'smbclient -L localhost' now that you have created the samba users on the linux box, following all the instructions from http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/...t-samba-server do you get a list of shares that you have created now?

I wouldn't trust a stupid GUI to setup the shares properly, read the doco instead and hack the /etc/samba/smb.conf as it suggests.

Yeah that works fine on the Imac. will check the linux box when the customers stop using it.

Sharename Type Comment
--------- ---- -------
IPC$ IPC IPC Service (iMac)
ADMIN$ IPC IPC Service (iMac)
deskjet 3500 Printer hp deskjet 3500
Stylus C46 Printer EPSON Stylus C44UX - CUPS+Gimp-Print v4.2.7
caracol Disk User Home Directories
Domain=[IMAC] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.10]

Server Comment
--------- -------

Workgroup Master
--------- -------
WORKGROUP

Cant find /samba/ or smb.conf on the imac - cant seem to find a decent search tool, or even if finder is hiding files from me....

Not that that matters hugely - we only need one way traffic.... The linux box has all the important bits and I need to access them on the imac. Vice versa is irrelevant, and it already works that way anyway....

[Posh Tourer :P]

Sorry I didnt notice you said output - I was trying to find the file itself. Anyways.....
Ifconfig output from the linux box. The local IP addresses change a bit as sometimes the router refuses to connect to the net and we unplug and replug it (not my idea...).

eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:A0:C5:86:85:8A
inet addr:192.168.1.36 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::2a0:c5ff:fe86:858a/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:62947 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:61373 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:54885228 (52.3 MiB) TX bytes:11753483 (11.2 MiB)
Interrupt:16 Base address:0xcc00

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:257488 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:257488 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:21717258 (20.7 MiB) TX bytes:21717258 (20.7 MiB)



The smbclient -L works fine on the linux box too, very similar to the imac, plus a few shares I set up with the GUI from System / Admin / Shared folders

This is ifconfig from the imac

lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280
stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
en0: flags=8863 mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::230:65ff:febe:e8b4%en0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
inet 192.168.1.33 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
ether 00:30:65:be:e8:b4
media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active
supported media: none autoselect 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX 100baseTX 100baseTX

[Posh Tourer :P]

Also thought this might help:

iMac:~ caracol$ smbclient //imac/caracol
Password:
Domain=[IMAC] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.10]
smb: \>

casacaracol@linuxmusic:~$ smbclient //linuxmusic/casacaracol
Password:
Domain=[LINUXMUSIC] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.0.14a-Ubuntu]
smb: \>

and this:
iMac:~ caracol$ nmblookup -M workgroup
querying workgroup on 192.168.1.255
192.168.1.36 workgroup<1d>

I have been trying to work through this and I cant figure out what numbers 4-6 mean and how to work them

Also I cannot log into remote computers (trying as above) because it wont accept my passwords.

However, filebrowser on Ubuntu now works fine, with full functionality, after I saved all the passwords in the keyring (see below)

[Posh Tourer :P]

Anyone know where I might find samba and smb.conf on an imac?? I know they are there because the samba commands work, but I cant find the config file to edit it......

Maarten

[Skunk]

It should be the same place as on Linux. The folder will be hidden though. Use 'Go' - 'Go to folder...' from the Finder to type the path or your shell/terminal.

Someone smarter will be along soon.

[bgd]

It's in /etc

[Posh Tourer :P]

It should be the same place as on Linux. The folder will be hidden though. Use 'Go' - 'Go to folder...' from the Finder to type the path or your shell/terminal.

Someone smarter will be along soon.

Great stuff - found it thanks..... Is there any way to unhide all that stuff temporarily? Oh and make it writeable? Or do I have to log in as admin?

here is part of smb.conf from the imac:

[global]
guest account = unknown
encrypt passwords = yes
auth methods = guest opendirectory
passdb backend = opendirectorysam guest
printer admin = @admin, @staff
server string = iMac

[bgd]

If you use terminal it's all visible. I think you need to be root to write to it. This is the listing on my machine.

-rw-r--r-- 1 root daemon 1942 Sep 1 21:42 smb.conf

I think that means there must be a front end to this

[Posh Tourer :P]

ok thats cool......

Here is my smb.conf from the linux box. Why the hell wont it connect to it from the imac????

[bgd]

I have a linux box that I will be collecting this weekend so if I get a chance I'll try and network it and (if successful) let you know. I do have a good book that covers networking linux and mac but it's with the linux box.

[limbimtimwim]

If you use terminal it's all visible. I think you need to be root to write to it. This is the listing on my machine.
-rw-r--r-- 1 root daemon 1942 Sep 1 21:42 smb.conf
I think that means there must be a front end to this

Yeah, there is. On the mac I wouldn't touch it, Apple should have whatever GUI stuff they are using sorted. The moment you use the OSX GUI samba config tool it'll probably rewrite the file anyway. But comparing it to the ubuntu smb.conf might be useful.

If you do "$ smbclient //linuxmusic/casacaracol" on the iMac, what happens?

Also, I noticed the smb.conf from the ubuntu box said 'workgroup = workgroup' but in the previous output from smbclient it was saying the domain (RE: workgroup) was linuxmusic. And the iMac was in the iMac domain.

It shouldn't make a difference, but perhaps if both machines were in the same workgroup?