gear change

**aff-man** · 10th January 2006, 08:28

Right was practicing wheelies as you do. But i can only do first gear ones and then hold them till i run out of revs. Second gear ones would require rooting the bike as it is not set up for it...

So I decided for now the best bet is to change gears while wheelieing. Easier said than done. Got told by some tubby bugger (looks at WT) to preload the gear and then change. Did some liitle ones trying this and it just brought the front down (oh and going into neutral while on one wheel isn't the most fun).

So i tried a little higher one and i got into second but as you have to button off slightly and button i=on as soon as i buttoned on it leapt up... quite scarey really.

So now to my question...... Is there a trick or more smooth way of doing this than just preloading the gear change??

cheers

**White trash** · 10th January 2006, 08:38

Just practice you poof and stop whining.

Just change gear on the fucken thing, it's hardly rocket science.

**SimJen** · 10th January 2006, 08:43

If you get the bike to the balance point, then you can easily change without upsetting it just gotta make it a smooth one and preloading as your mate said is the way to go.
Im not too good at big wheelies, but have managed it once or twice.
I prefer just to gas it up out of slow hairpins and stuff and riding a wheelie out. If I wanted bigger i'd have to get a K5 1000, then they'd be on tap in the first three gears

**bugjuice** · 10th January 2006, 09:06

you're doing the change clutchless, aren't you?
And second gear wheelies are fine ya nonce. just clutch it up. That's why bikes have clutches, to wheelie.. and to stop or summat

**crashe** · 10th January 2006, 10:15

Question for you experts in this line of field...

What is "Preloading" a gear change?????????????????
Do you only do it when doing a wheelie or can it be done anytime????

I have not heard that term before..

So could one of you really nice gentlemen care to explain to me what that is.

Cheers and thanks in advance.

**skelstar** · 10th January 2006, 10:17

Actually I was wondering too...but guessing that it means giving the throttle a blip to make the change smoother?

**cowpoos** · 10th January 2006, 10:20

Originally Posted by crashe

Question for you experts in this line of field...

What is "Preloading" a gear change?????????????????
Do you only do it when doing a wheelie or can it be done anytime????

I have not heard that term before..

So could one of you really nice gentlemen care to explain to me what that is.

Cheers and thanks in advance.

what are you doing out of the kitchen!!!

**cowpoos** · 10th January 2006, 10:21

Originally Posted by skelstar

Actually I was wondering too...but guessing that it means giving the throttle a blip to make the change smoother?

and you too....how come you not in the kitchen

**crashe** · 10th January 2006, 10:24

Originally Posted by cowpoos

what are you doing out of the kitchen!!!

At least I am in here asking sensible questions not like you just wasting time on a good site with wasted dribble...

**The_Dover** · 10th January 2006, 10:28

where's my ****en eggs woman?

**cowpoos** · 10th January 2006, 10:33

Originally Posted by crashe

At least I am in here asking sensible questions not like you just wasting time on a good site with wasted dribble...

oh....thems fighting words little ladie....now stop being so lippy and get back in the kithen and get dover his eggs....oh and I want cheese on toast and a coffee

**riffer** · 10th January 2006, 11:13

Stop being arseholes guys.

If you can't answer the question, don't bother ridiculing others.

edit: I had a bit of an idea about preloading, but didn't want to say anything u ntil I found a better description.

Here's some info on preloading gears:
http://www.vf750fd.com/blurbs/shifting.html

**bugjuice** · 10th January 2006, 11:21

that's a lot to read (and good too).
The outlined para about preloading is:

I'm also going to dispel another common bit of moto folklore, namely the practice of preloading the shifter. Yes, this may hasten the shift process and may even seem to make the shifts more positive in their engagement, but think about what it's doing to the transmission. You're now applying pressure to the shift selector mechanism and one of the shift forks. The transmission doesn't shift yet because it's in an acceleration or deceleration state. In fact, if you backed off the throttle momentarily, the transmission would likely complete the gear change just like any other clutchless shift. A lot of old timers will tell you this is the way to go. The problem is most of them don't know how the transmission operates. I also see a lot of them complaining about how their transmission jumps out of gear if they don't preload between shifts. If you need to preload the shifter to get the transmission to successfully complete shifts, chances are good it's already damaged and needs repairs. Don't preload the shifter, OK?

That's the site's para, not mine. Just gonna read it myself now