Police and T/Cops supplying their own gear?

[spudchucka]

The belts they supply us with are velcro crap, most of the guys i know have replaced them with a different brand which actually holds together when your chasing someone; these are not cheap. We have to supply our boots as well, it sucks cause they are about $200 a pair for the cheapest ones.

Anything you want like socks pants shirts etc you kinda have to fight for pretty hard (i dont know if thats just auckland or is the same all the way down the country).

As far as torch's, raincoats, hats etc they are all issued.

Stab proof armour was supposed to be issued in a year but that hasnt happened.

The association is fighting to get our boots supplied because footwear is an essential safety item, (OSH). I was at the college for a mates graduation last year and the recruits were all walking around with duty belts fitted with buckles. They looked pretty tinny sort of rubbish though, I'll stick to my home-made special. The duty belt is meant to be getting an overhaul with the rollout of the body armour, I suppose we could end up with any sort of junk.

[spudchucka]

is that why they take your shoes of you when you get shut in a cell? do they try them on, if they fit one of the boys then they "get lost" and if not, then they are waiting out side the cell for you when you go home???

There isn't a disinfectant strong enough to make me want to wear any of those shoes.

[spudchucka]

Let me see when I head to college next month, I have to buy my own pt gear i.e at least 2 x white t shirts, 2 x pairs blues shorts, white socks.

I have to also buy boots as already stated, there is also alot of other smaller items that I have to pay for. Nevermind, can't be helped.

Make sure you buy 100% cotton shorts because they make you iron nice litle creases into them. Polyester ones a bitch to iron.

[spudchucka]

Your forgetting your metal badge lol $37.00 or you can just get the plastic id card by itself for free..though people kinda expect a metal badge when your in plainclothes or they wont listen to you...too much damn american tv.

And when some dickhead loser says, "Right, give me your badge number, I'm going to complain", you can show them your nice pretty badge without any numbers on it at all.

[spudchucka]

Really? You must be talking about the new orca radios, only some units use those...i use the trusty old saber lol its only semi digital and has no numerical keypad...but it has awesome reception and is nice and big...i see those orcas and i think i might breakthem they look like calculators!

It would be cool if they could do both cellphone and radio comms.

The Motorola ones were the best, reliable, great range, the battery never went flat and you could whack someone with it if things turned to shit. A Snr Sgt I worked under once used one to whack an offender who was resisting arrest and causing quite a few problems in the nuts. Dropped him like a sack of shit, I remember at the time thinking " I don't think he's calling comms for back up" as he started to swing the radio.

[Biff]

Really? You must be talking about the new orca radios,

Yeah - The Orcas are far better (technically and in terms of build quality) pieces of kit than those bloody ancient Sabers. And believe it or not the Orca is a Military spec radio, while the Saber, even though it looks chunky (and useful for bashing people when you cant get to your stick in time) only just passes the minimum standard (IP54) for durability. Typical Motorola crap. But people buy Motorola because of the brand name not because of their quality/value for money.

Put an Orca and a Saber back to back and check out the actual voice quality and levels of radio coverage (distance) they both offer. Then you'll see how crap the Saber is. And the Orca is cheaper.

And to top it off the Orca is made by a Kiwi company, who design & manufacture arguably the best radios in the world for the money. Not like that nasty Chinese crap Moto sell.

Can you tell I'm a radio geek?

[judgeshock]

Cheers Spud, I actually have been given two pairs that my uncle had when he went through. He said he wouldn't ever wear them again, after looking at them I can see why.
He also gave me some really gay looking shiny boots for the parade ground on wednesdays. Slightly big but if I don't have to polish them even better.

[spudchucka]

Ive seen those new ones...they are a little better...still absolute shit though.

I got this one; its really good as it incorporates cable ties into it

http://www.tacops.co.nz/store/view_p...8e10ebfcd05a78

They look pretty good. Mine is just one of the old velcro belts modified with a nice big steel buckle. Bastard never slips and if you have too much 1/2 price MacDonalds you can just squeeze the belt up tight to keep your gut in.

[spudchucka]

My Sergeant came across a kidnapping of a young (16 year old street worker) girl in progress in the back of liverpool street in the city. He tired to get the guy out of the car but ened up being dragged down liverpool onto city road and onto queen street. He managed to semi knock the driver out with his saber and pull him out of the car on Queen Street at which time myself and T P turned up.

Saber was broken and looked like a bananna.

Were those motorollas those old grey ones? they looked a lot tougher..

Maybe its the saber that I'm talking about, I've never really paid any attention to the names on them. The ones I'm talking about were black, like the ones used on the Third Watch TV show. I haven't seen any of those grey radios for a hell of a long time.

I'm no fan of those curly cord radios either, I just don't like having something virtually wrapped around my neck while I'm dealing with arseholes.

[bugjuice]

Ive seen those new ones...they are a little better...still absolute shit though.

I got this one; its really good as it incorporates cable ties into it

http://www.tacops.co.nz/store/view_p...8e10ebfcd05a78

ooooo thanks for the link.. I'm gonna buy me a battering ram for when I lock the keys in the house again.. Can you get the optional 'fake rock' to hide it under?

[spudchucka]

Yeah the ones on third watch were sabers which we still use....what do you have?? bloody auckland police prehistoric technology

Yeah those geeks who walk around with antennas sticking out everywhere....its understandable if your a delta or a bike cop...but a beat cop??

We have all Orcas now.

Yeah, it seems that a lot of cops these days are inspector gadget types that need all the trendy bits and pieces. I've seen a few get into scraps and come up with all the radio cords and ear pieces hanging out in a huge jumbled mess, fkn funny.

[bugjuice]

Big rock youll need! hey do you cruise up lake road quite a bit? think i seen you cruising around my area

you the one followin me?!?!
yeah, live just off Lake road. Please don't book me. I didn't intend the wheelie, my hands have tourettes and they just spasm sometimes

[Patrick]

Let me see when I head to college next month, I have to buy my own pt gear i.e at least 2 x white t shirts, 2 x pairs blues shorts, white socks.

I have to also buy boots as already stated, there is also alot of other smaller items that I have to pay for. Nevermind, can't be helped.

They just don't wanna give ya stuff to go to College just in case you don't make the grade...

Then when you do make the grade, the bosses with short arms and deep pockets don't wanna waste their budgets on your shirts and trousers after the College already gave you a hugely generous two of each......

Good luck at the College...enjoy!!!

[ManDownUnder]

OK now I think that sums it all up.. there is a STORE online where cops can get the goodies they need?

...nifty...

What about this stuff being issued? If you need it- you get it. If you don't get it, you shouldn't need it.

I'm all for our cops being equipped to do their job - and do it well at no/low risk to themselves. Why are my (someonewhat generous dollops of) tax dollars not being used accordingly?

Oh I remember now... we're paying for women to have kids to fathers who abscond...

[Patrick]

Yeah - The Orcas are far better (technically and in terms of build quality) pieces of kit than those bloody ancient Sabers. And believe it or not the Orca is a Military spec radio, while the Saber, even though it looks chunky (and useful for bashing people when you cant get to your stick in time) only just passes the minimum standard (IP54) for durability.
Put an Orca and a Saber back to back and check out the actual voice quality and levels of radio coverage (distance) they both offer. Then you'll see how crap the Saber is. And the Orca is cheaper. Etc Etc...

I believe both have scramble capacity, but the powers don't wanna waste $$$ in doing that, so the crims can still listen to their scanners and avoid us...

Orcas "could" be used as cell phones too but again, due to the $$$$, ours never will...