New Vehicle Law, Vodascam and World Destruction

[pete376403]

It'll be a bit more extensive than that I reckon...I'm nicking (I think) Douglas Adams' observation that what the Japanese are currently researching is how many whales they can catch in a day. Bastards.

If their real grounds for catching them (and this goes for the Norweigians too) is that it's a traditional part of their culture and diet etc etc yadda yadda, then fine, just as long as they do it from one of those old fashioned rowing boats.

Eating whale meat only became "traditional" in japan at the end of WWII, when that was the only meat they could get. Besides, they are weird f*ckers - where else in the world would whale sperm be a "popular drink"?

[Grahameeboy]

Using a shotgun approach here stonechucker?
The problem with relying on Police discretion is typified by the middle-aged, Merc driving "pillar of the community" who was done under the boy-racer law for sustained loss of traction. This isn't the first Populist politicians enact laws aimed at a section of lawbreakers and Plod uses it on everyone.

There maybe some truth in them words Lou which highlights what I was trying to say.....but not all Plods overdo the use of laws......

[ManDownUnder]

Poison the whales!

The dead/harpooned/beyond help ones.

As they're going up the slipway, shoot a bloody big load of Cyanide into it. It'd be a more merciful dispatch for the whale and render the meat unusable... Maybe a dose of aresenic and/or mercury for good measure.

[Swoop]

If the Japanese are killing whales for scientific research, when can we expect to see the results of the research?

I guess it will be a three word report - "Whales taste yummy"

Nope, there'll be more than that...
What type of sauce goes best with each type of whale..
Best wine/saki to accompany...
Wasabi? You betcha...

[Lias]

Hang on - should someone get away with sustained loss of traction because they are a pillar of society in a Merc ? Is he a good enough driver to control the vehicle in that situation any better than a boy racer ? Maybe, maybe not.

Good one them for applying the law consistently.

I dunno, but I'm all in favour of making all the boy racer laws only apply to people under 25 :-)

[jazbug5]

PS Sea sheppard claim not to be part off Green Peace Corporation.
But they were started by one of the Green Peace Corporation s Founders.
They obviously claim no connection with GP Corp so that their violent piracy tactics don't reflect on their parent company.

Incorrect, tempting as it may be to think so. The guy who started the Sea Shepherd thing was indeed a founding member of Greenpeace, but stomped away as he didn't feel that they were radical enough any more and he wanted to be free to take more direct action. Plus he wasn't too keen on their 'corporate whoring'.
They are none too happy with the connection, it seems...

[Grahameeboy]

Hang on - should someone get away with sustained loss of traction because they are a pillar of society in a Merc ? Is he a good enough driver to control the vehicle in that situation any better than a boy racer ? Maybe, maybe not.

Good one them for applying the law consistently.

Good point but I guess it is the 'Intent' that is important......that is why hey have 'Murder' and 'Manslaughter'.......some is killed but reasons are different..

[Marmoot]

Yeah, we're all individuals but what i said holds true with the majority.

True with the 'majority' bits.

But it only takes 1 to ruin my life.....if I ever get unlucky.

That is why I do not believe this matter should be an instant fine without check-and-balance measure such as the ones employed in breathtesting (with blood-testing option as safety net to filter the irregularities before putting the matter to court).

[Hitcher]

In some respects Greenpeace is like a religion -- particularly the love:hate responses it engenders. While it may have started as a 'noble cause' based on the beliefs of well-meaning conspiracy theorists, today it is just the Starbucks of environmentalism -- a global organisation that needs to publicise its activities to remain financially viable. A global organisation that the anti-globalisation nutters surprisingly seem to overlook.

Unlike Starbucks, however, it has no accountability structures: no board of directors elected by members, no published code of conduct, etc. Greenpeace is a corrupt and immoral manipulator of public opinion. They'll take your money but they're not interested in what you think. It's up to you to align with "them" (whoever "they" are).

[Deano]

I dunno, but I'm all in favour of making all the boy racer laws only apply to people under 25 :-)

You don't know any 'boy' racers over the age of 25 ?

Hooning around like an idiot isn't only the domain of the young.

[Deano]

Good point but I guess it is the 'Intent' that is important......that is why hey have 'Murder' and 'Manslaughter'.......some is killed but reasons are different..

This is where the courts would decide (if it goes that far). If for arguments sake he defends it and goes to court, I'd say he would get a much lesser penalty if he can prove there was little, if any intent involved (even if he lied, because after all, he is well respected and no-one would expect him to lie), as opposed to a backward cap wearing, snot nosed, unclean boy racer (no offence !!)

[kerryg]

Eating whale meat only became "traditional" in japan at the end of WWII, when that was the only meat they could get. Besides, they are weird f*ckers - where else in the world would whale sperm be a "popular drink"?

If whales are plentiful and their existence in good numbers is not threatened by limited harvesting and they are killed humanely the only objections one can make about whaling are based on emotion, romanticism, sentimentality etc etc. Some countries do not share our sentimentality about whales. That we are sentimental (and I find the killing of whales repugnant, so don't get me wrong) and they are not...well that's more our problem than theirs.

It could be argued that opposing whaling while sanctioning or at least not actively opposing other abhorrent things (big game fishing, the killing of other animals for sport, the fur trade, vivisection, for example) is hypocrisy.

I have heard a Japanese describe the whale as "the cow of the sea" and point out our enthusiasm for eating the meat of cows, while expressing horror that anyone would eat rabbit or a deer (a bit like eating a child's pet or a panda to a Japanese). We are less sentimental about these protein sources.

The images I've seen of whales being taken are pretty horrible and I hate to think of any animals undergoing such suffering but I wonder if we are missing the point: IF(I repeat) IF the Japanese were (1) legally taking whales (2) in limited numbers that represent no risk to the viability of each species and (3) killing them humanely, what right, moral or otherwise, would we have to oppose them doing so?

Just thought I'd run it up the flagpole...................

[Patrick]

Re No.1 - I work on this priciple: If I get complaints (from the public) it makes work for me, if it makes work for me - it makes tickets for them.

If the turds that insist on showing off thier boom-box/blow-off valve/exhaust note insist on showing off such stuff in a residential area late at night causing complaints then they know what to expect.
The local 'boy-racers' have all the life preservation instincts of a lemming, I mean how smart is it to leave the local Caltex with the stereo blaring, windows wound down, stoking the crap out of the car in 1st and 2nd gear (blow off valve 'pisshing' away and the zorst going blaaaaargh -blaaaaaargch)-- RIGHT PAST THE COP SHOP????

JEEZ I thought that just happened outside my cop shop...looks like we work to the same rule too BTW...

[Lou Girardin]

There maybe some truth in them words Lou which highlights what I was trying to say.....but not all Plods overdo the use of laws......

Maybe not, but giving the Police more and more powers tempts too many of them to use it indiscriminately.
The latest is the UK giving their Police the power of arrest for ANY offence "if the Officer believes it is reasonable to do so".
"He called me a power mad nazi, your Honour. I thought it was reasonable to arrest him for jaywalking"

[Patrick]

Ow! that hurts my eye..ow! that hurts my eye..ow! that hurts my eye..ow! that hurts my eye..ow! that hurts my eye..STOP IT!!

Yeah, we're all individuals but what i said holds true with the majority.

Gotta second that call...

but like anything, I suppose there are a few out there that dont like bikes (if that is possible) so they will ticket a tinted visor wearer (haven't known of that law though...) can see where you are coming from, but believe me, scummy described the "target" perfectly in his post.