Another proper England rant...

**MSTRS:Me** · 19th January 2006, 11:28

There are times when it is 'interesting' to ignore all the linguistic rules and just do stuff like....
AWAENBILEYERHEID
Who wants bling??

**Swoop** · 19th January 2006, 11:31

Originally Posted by MidnightMike

Disco stu did what?!

He's an Australian..... (or at least in Melbourne - that still counts)

Don't ask what they do to sheep over there... (if they have any and if they aren't on fire yet)

**Hitcher** · 19th January 2006, 11:31

Originally Posted by Wolf

I wish I had my New Zealand Style Guide unpacked, I could look up what is the appropriate spelling for NZ.

Your New Zealand Style Guide would tell you to use ise (presuming we each have copies of the same document).

**TONO** · 19th January 2006, 11:43

Originally Posted by Jim2

It's not unnecessary. There was a pause in the sentence and I didn't feel that a "," did it justice. From a reliable English Lit. source at VUW I've been told that the ";" can be substituted for a comma or a colon, to provide just the right emphasis for the following phrase, word, or explanation. Three cheers for the versatile semi-colon.

Jim! It is English but not as we know it, No?

I blame it on poor teaching practises in today's schools and F--king texting.
That's my tuppence worth.

**yungatart** · 19th January 2006, 12:09

Originally Posted by Scoots Magoo

You're lucky I couldn't be bothered reading the phori yesterday much. Untill next time!

Fori- or forums?
The ph is wrong.
And it is UNTIL with 1 'l'

**TwoSeven** · 19th January 2006, 12:17

I think there is a difference between someone writing in vernacular or colloquial english vs someone who is writing using proper english rules. Each has a time and place.

**Hitcher** · 19th January 2006, 12:34

There are legitimate exceptions to all rules. Including this one.

**idb** · 19th January 2006, 13:09

Originally Posted by yungatart

Fori- or forums?

Fora I believe.

**Phurrball** · 19th January 2006, 13:36

Originally Posted by TwoSeven

I think there is a difference between someone writing in vernacular or colloquial english vs someone who is writing using proper english rules. Each has a time and place.

An interesting, and perhaps evolving, case-in-point of chimeric language being internet fora such as KB.

Posts here seem to be a mix of English from the spoken register, and the written register...

A spoken conversation may be suggested by posting: 'LOL' (suggesting the unarticulated sounds of human laughter as I understand it...); the more onomatopoeic 'Mwahhaha'; a suggested intonation such as 'riiiigggghhhht'; and may be complete with virtual gesticulation and facial expression on occasion!

Such a conversational approach may carry on, or may slip into a more formal written register as the post author tries to make a cogent point (often unlikely on KB - present company excepted of course

)

This is the bleeding edge people - but that doesn't mean there's any need to allow articulate communication standards to slip! (*Thumps desk to drive home point*) Internet fora are still ultimately a written form of communication, in spite of nods to a form of 'cyber-spoken' language. As such, punctuation, capitalisation and the usual hallmarks of written English are required to allow for accurate reception of the idea being communicated - typed language is still the poor cousin of face-to-face conversation in relation to non-verbal meaning cues, the noble innovations of those coining 'net-speak' have a way to go before they can replicate the subtle complexities of meaning of a face-to-face conversation. Till that day, we must preserve linguistic standards...

So Wolf - there's a grammarian flame-warrior, but where's the linguist? I nominate you!

**idb** · 19th January 2006, 14:27

Originally Posted by Phurrball

Till that day, we must preserve linguistic standards...

OK, I'll be the first to the plate.
Shouldn't that read ".......'Til that day......." as an abbreviation of "....Until that day....."?

**Posh Tourer :P** · 19th January 2006, 14:50

Originally Posted by idb

Are having six toes and speaking 133+ the next step on the evolutionary ladder?
Homo Cpnz++

Gaaahhhhh!!

(seeing as the pedants anonymous meeting has been opened).....

There is no ladder, evolution is leading nowhere! Or at least horizontally...... Ladder implies better and a overall purpose. If you are talking about evolution, talk about the next step in the evolutionary drunken stumble...

**Hitcher** · 19th January 2006, 14:59

Fora -- Gahhhh!!! Users of pig Latin shall verily get their ba kicked.

**TwoSeven** · 19th January 2006, 15:10

Originally Posted by Phurrball

As such, punctuation, capitalisation and the usual hallmarks of written English are required to allow for accurate reception of the idea being communicated - typed language is still the poor cousin of face-to-face conversation in relation to non-verbal meaning cues, the noble innovations of those coining 'net-speak' have a way to go before they can replicate the subtle complexities of meaning of a face-to-face conversation. Till that day, we must preserve linguistic standards...

And alienate all of the high context cultures