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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL View Post
    Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I thought that the sub-editor was an extinct species
    They are alive and well.
    Problem these days, is their boss. Lazy moron whom, can't even put their full title on the page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    There is a difference that that separates man from machine.
    Yup. Man should (but, invariably doesn't - and is proud of it) know better. Machine does what man tells it.
    It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post

    So, on the internet we only get words .. and few people are good writers .. using extra exclamation marks is a way of conveying tone ... and possibly body language.
    That's just an excuse, generated by an academic looking for excuses for not communicating a functional understanding of a supposedly native language.

    Learning has become an osmotic process, particularly communication skills and far too many people are being left as functional illiterates at the end of their schooling. The form and rules of language change all the time, as the anti-grammar are often wont to remind me, however when you have no idea of the rules in the first place how can your communication be anything other than ineffective?

    A subjective interpretation of the English language leaves one bound to a solipsist's existence, forever wondering why people just, "don't understand me".
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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    They are alive and well.
    Problem these days, is their boss. Lazy moron whom, can't even put their full title on the page.
    Ed.

    Besides why jump up and down about it, to err is human. Machines FFFF up. There is a difference that that separates man from machine.
    Needs subbing.

    Yebbut there is less money in all traditional news media in the Blogger, Cable and You Tube era.

    Middle production - Subs, Picture Editors, Art Director, the rag can still be produced without them when revenues fall. But so does quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    Learning has become an osmotic process, particularly communication skills and far too many people are being left as functional illiterates at the end of their schooling.
    Hear, hear.
    Or is that "here, here"??
    I dunno, why dont I just give up like every one else
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeL View Post
    Hear, hear.
    Or is that "here, here"??
    I dunno, why dont I just give up like every one else
    Its ...Air Hair Leer...gives you a proper english accent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Its ...Air Hair Leer...gives you a proper english accent.
    just coz u Kiwis cant speak proper like wot we dus..

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
    Nope. It's "I wish I was..."
    I was, you were.
    "I was", "you were" are past participles of "to be".

    "I wish", however invokes the subjunctive mood.

    On checking, it seems that perhaps it should be "I wish I be a glow worm", which sounds clumsy. "I wish I were..." at least suggests that you wish you had been one for some time...

    Famous use of the subjunctive by "If I were your wife, I would put poison in your coffee", "If you were my wife, I'd drink it".

    Kids these days don't get taught more than the rudiments of language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    "I was", "you were" are past participles of "to be".

    "I wish", however invokes the subjunctive mood.

    On checking, it seems that perhaps it should be "I wish I be a glow worm", which sounds clumsy. "I wish I were..." at least suggests that you wish you had been one for some time...

    Famous use of the subjunctive by "If I were your wife, I would put poison in your coffee", "If you were my wife, I'd drink it".

    Kids these days don't get taught more than the rudiments of language.
    If they're lucky enough...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    "I was", "you were" are past participles of "to be".

    "I wish", however invokes the subjunctive mood.

    On checking, it seems that perhaps it should be "I wish I be a glow worm", which sounds clumsy. "I wish I were..." at least suggests that you wish you had been one for some time...

    Famous use of the subjunctive by "If I were your wife, I would put poison in your coffee", "If you were my wife, I'd drink it".

    Kids these days don't get taught more than the rudiments of language.
    Ah, you are correct. My apologies

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Deuce View Post
    That's just an excuse, generated by an academic looking for excuses for not communicating a functional understanding of a supposedly native language.

    Learning has become an osmotic process, particularly communication skills and far too many people are being left as functional illiterates at the end of their schooling. The form and rules of language change all the time, as the anti-grammar are often wont to remind me, however when you have no idea of the rules in the first place how can your communication be anything other than ineffective?

    A subjective interpretation of the English language leaves one bound to a solipsist's existence, forever wondering why people just, "don't understand me".
    Oh, I largely agree. For good communication good language use is important. This is about the shared nature of understanding of words, of the relationship indicated by the simple [speaker concept=word=listener concept]

    This is important when communicating complex ideas ...

    For simple ideas "Does it look like I give fuck" seems sufficient to me.

    Obviously not - because you don't seem to get my point - DOES IT LOOK LIKE I GIVE A FUCK (no apologies for shouting - maybe now you'll get my point!!!!)

    And before you ask why do I patrticipate in this discussion? Because it amuses me.

    (And I share your pain - people don't seem to understand me either.)
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