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    Quote Originally Posted by r4q2
    Why would you shoot someone in the head SEVEN times!!!

    You'd think after the first he would be dead, and if not the second would make sure.......

    Heroes????
    Three officers, trained to fire in 3-shot bursts, who missed?

    Yes. Heroes, just for doing the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD
    To me the events at Stockwell are an acceptable risk in the current climate, in my mind it just increase the death toll for the London bombings by 1 which is what? Less than 10%?.
    Ok- would you like to be the one to have to tell his family that? It seems that his death could have been an avoidable one.
    Yes, the police have a hard job, no-one is disputing that. But if this happened because they didn't follow their training and did not identify themselves, then something does have to be done. Pulling guns in rush hour? Hmmm.

    And there is the little matter of alienating people even more than they already are. People in that area can still remember the race riots of Brixton, which happened because of the poor relationship between young black males and the police- wherever you stand on that debate. There is a similar dynamic happening with young Muslim males in the East end/Brick Lane area, and this type of thing does absolutely nothing to help it; even if it doesn't necessarily encourage a young guy to join the Jihadis, it may make him less likely to argue against it or try to stop friends who might...
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    ...and you think they deserve medals for markmanship?
    The guy was on the floor, for God's sake!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazbug5
    Ok- would you like to be the one to have to tell his family that?
    No I wouldn't, but I wouldn't want to say to those coppers "Thanks for risking your life, but as it turns out we need a scapegoat and that's you"


    Quote Originally Posted by jazbug5
    There is a similar dynamic happening with young Muslim males in the East end/Brick Lane area, and this type of thing does absolutely nothing to help it; even if it doesn't necessarily encourage a young guy to join the Jihadis, it may make him less likely to argue against it or try to stop friends who might...
    Don't even go there, I'm fully onside with the opinion that Muslim community leaders have purposely worked to keep their communities separate from mainstream society....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jazbug5
    ...and you think they deserve medals for markmanship?
    The guy was on the floor, for God's sake!
    No, as I thought I made clear, they deserve medails for putting themselves out there and making tough split-second decisions that affect the lives of potentially tens of people.

    The witch-hunt this is turning into means that next time the probability of the error being on the side of a bomb being detonated just went up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD
    Don't even go there, I'm fully onside with the opinion that Muslim community leaders have purposely worked to keep their communities separate from mainstream society....
    Ah. I see. My mistake then; I forgot that men with bandages on their heads have black, black hearts and shifty, too-close-together eyes and stuff. Er, fuck yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazbug5
    Ah. I see. My mistake then; I forgot that men with bandages on their heads have black, black hearts and shifty, too-close-together eyes and stuff. Er, fuck yeah.

    By the way, there's drool on your shirt.
    Oops my bad. I'm a white male therefore any criticism of anyone who's skin is darker than mine is automatically knee-jerk racism. Go back to your Linda McCartney veggie burgers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD
    No I wouldn't, but I wouldn't want to say to those coppers "Thanks for risking your life, but as it turns out we need a scapegoat and that's you"
    What about something like them saying "Sorry" - accompanied by an explanation of what actually happened (as opposed to the PR version) and WHY it actually happened (again - as opposed to the PR version).

    Thanks for risking your life is a given. I will happily give those thanks to everyone in the forces, the police, the fire service and anyone else facing a dangerous situation so I don't have to. I'm grateful - I really am.

    That doesn't mean they're immune to responsibility though. If they did bad they take the wrap.

    Just like me.
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    dunno if you guys woulda heard about the unmarked cop car that got hit by a 14 y/o driver here in a town a lil while back? big headlines the next day "POLICE TRIED TO KILL MY SON" son being the passenger of the car that was being pursued by a marked cop car. really peeved me off, reading that. a lot of people wrote in have a dig at the father, saying it was the other way round.

    someones always gotta be the scapegoat, though its obvious who was in the wrong there...the driver for refusing to stop when ordered, and also for driving at all, being 14!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD
    Oops my bad. I'm a white male therefore any criticism of anyone who's skin is darker than mine is automatically knee-jerk racism.
    Not necessarily. It could also be uninformed bigotry.
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    You don't seem to know what really happened MrD.
    Like the cop who had the apartments under surveillance, taking off for a piss and not seeing the 'terrorist' arrive.
    Then a group of men in civvies chasing a clearly unarmed man without identifying themselves. A Brazillian man who would naturally run when threatened by armed men, it's how they grow up over there.
    One cop grabbed him when he stood up, immobilised him, pushed him into a seat on the carriage while others shot him 7 times in the head and shoulder.
    Then saying publicly that he was wearing bulky clothing as if hiding a bomb belt - he wasn't.
    And saying that he was challenged and the cops identified themselves - they didn't.
    They did use to give medals for this type of heroics, it was called the Iron Cross.
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    The fucker had a back pack.
    end of game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrat
    The fucker had a back pack.
    end of game
    Is that the back pack the Police said he had?
    Or the one he didn't have?
    Or perhaps the one they wish he had?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackrat
    The fucker had a back pack.
    end of game
    Shit - I've got one too... maybe I should avoid the tube next time I'm in London?
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    Ok then wise arse, why did the cops shoot him. Oh yeah, we've got 4 coppers in the uk who went out looking to slaughter some innocent non raghead just for a laugh. fuck off.

    4 cops don't shoot someone without reason. 1 maybe, but not 4.
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