Bleeding heart liberals!

[Jamezo]

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[Mooch]

The guy did a runner. He paid the price. Plenty here alude to the same if we do the same on our bikes. As for the language thing. A dog may not fully understand the command but they as sure as hell understand the tone if there is any confusion.

As for the Police lies. Thats a disciplineary matter not a murder or manslaughter charge.

Skyryder

What runner , the guy stopped to get a paper !

from the BBC

He crossed Clapham Road and entered the station at about 1000, stopping to pick up a copy of the free Metro newspaper before passing through the automatic ticket barriers, using his Underground pass.

At least one witness initially said he saw the man vaulting the barriers. But he later acknowledged that it could have been one of the pursuing officers.

By this time, officers had received "positive identification" that Mr Menezes was their suspect, according to the leaked papers.

He began travelling down the escalator towards the northbound Northern Line platform, and at some point began running towards the train. Originally, this was interpreted by witnesses (and not dismissed by police) as an attempt to escape the pursuing officers.

But the documents suggest it might have been because he heard or spotted a train arriving at the platform.

[scumdog]

So why DID they shoot him?????????

[scumdog]

Is that the back pack the Police said he had?
Or the one he didn't have?
Or perhaps the one they wish he had?

Or the one you say he didn't have?
or the one he had?
Or perhaps the one you wish he didn't have?

[Lou Girardin]

From what I've read they did identify themselves as cops - but the guy took off running none the less.

He was an illegal immigrant.

Maybe he genuinely didn't hear the cops identify themselves.

Maybe he thought he was going to be deported?

He ran, onto a busy tube station during a period of increased tension in London following the recent spate of bombings.

He ran onto a tube train and refused to stop, was bundled to the floo, and told to put his hands out, the guy pulling them in instead, under himself.

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I don't know where you heard this, but it conflicts with what witnesses have said. Especially when he was shot. A woman next to him saw a cop grab him, pin his arms to his side, push him back into his eat and then the others shot him as he was immobilised.

[Mooch]

So why DID they shoot him?????????

They'd had miss-taken him for an assoicate of one of the London bombers. A London bomber had borrowed a gym card from a person in the Brazilian's building.

A member of police incorrectly identified the Brazilian as the bombers assocaite as the Brazilian left the apartment block.

As to why they shot him ? , believing that the Brazilian was an assoicate of one of the bombers they must have thought he was part of another cell and posed a bombing threat. The police tail lost track of him for a while, catching up at the station when the guy was entering the Tube.

London police were under shoot to kill orders at the time.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/h...l/stakeout.stm

[Lou Girardin]

So why DID they shoot him?????????

Their training, based on Israeli tactics, is for multiple shots to the head. to prevent even reflexive actions.

[scumdog]

Their training, based on Israeli tactics, is for multiple shots to the head. to prevent even reflexive actions.

Ah, yeah, I was aware of all that, it was more a to see who would come up with a conspiracy type theory or some other ding-bat response.....

[Biff]

I don't know where you heard this, but it conflicts with what witnesses have said.

Here for starters:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...706793,00.html


"Witnesses to the killing of Menezes described how he was chased into Stockwell Tube station on Friday morning by armed plainclothes officers and killed with shots to the head while lying on the floor of a train.
The officers are thought to have feared that Menezes, who was wearing a quilted jacket on a summer’s day, might have been concealing a bomb. "


Several witnesses reported several different versions of events. Let's see what comes out in court.

[Lou Girardin]

The officers are thought to have feared that Menezes, who was wearing a quilted jacket on a summer’s day, might have been concealing a bomb. "

Photos taken immediately after the shooting showed him wearing a shirt.

[scumdog]

Photos taken immediately after the shooting showed him wearing a shirt.

Thing is Lou: people post all this 'information' such as you have and this 'shows' that an innocent unaggresive man who was doing nothing wrong and was wearing nothing suspicious etc etc was shot by the Police.
Now out of all 1,000s of innocent unaggresive people doing nothing wrong and wearing nothing suspicious etc etc WHY did the decide to shoot this poor bozo?????

[Lou Girardin]

An atmosphere of hysteria? Everyone's a bomber?
It's the precise thing these terrorists want to happen, innocents killed due to over-reaction of their target Government.
It's a tactic as old as time, and works very well.

[scumdog]

An atmosphere of hysteria? Everyone's a bomber?
It's the precise thing these terrorists want to happen, innocents killed due to over-reaction of their target Government.
It's a tactic as old as time, and works very well.

Well it did for that guy, one innocent but it was hardly mass death and destruction and panic stricken mayhem though so I wouldn't put it in the 'works very well' catagory..

[Pixie]

And there is the little matter of alienating people even more than they already are. People in that area can still remember the race riots of Brixton, which happened because of the poor relationship between young black males and the police- wherever you stand on that debate. There is a similar dynamic happening with young Muslim males in the East end/Brick Lane area, and this type of thing does absolutely nothing to help it; even if it doesn't necessarily encourage a young guy to join the Jihadis, it may make him less likely to argue against it or try to stop friends who might...

This is the main objective of terrorism,and the cops played right into their hands by over reacting.

[Lou Girardin]

Well it did for that guy, one innocent but it was hardly mass death and destruction and panic stricken mayhem though so I wouldn't put it in the 'works very well' catagory..

There seems to be no shortage of terrorists.