Anyone got some old fork springs?

[erik]

about 30mm to 32mm diameter and 380mm to 500mm long.
they need to be about .90kg/mm at a guess... but would be happy to try whatever is available.

Just thought I'd check before ordering some from Oz. (not many zeal's get wrecked here).

[Bonez]

Why not get a spring manufacture some? I think WT mentioned he had a contact on that front.

[erik]

because I'm looking for something cheap.
A while back I cut the original springs in the Zeal to stiffen the front end a bit, it worked (although is still a bit soft). But it's not entirely legal, so since I'm selling the bike soon, I want to get some legal springs for it. I know you can't see them or tell they've been cut, but I'd rather do the right thing.
The thing is the bike has done almost 80,000km and isn't in pristine condition, so I'm not going to get much when I sell it, so it wouldn't make sense to get aftermarket springs for it.

[Brian d marge]

about 30mm to 32mm diameter and 380mm to 500mm long.
they need to be about .90kg/mm at a guess... but would be happy to try whatever is available.

Just thought I'd check before ordering some from Oz. (not many zeal's get wrecked here).

Eric I am just rushing out the door , I will have a look ..if you are not in a hurry i can probably help

As for cutting down spring
After maket manufactures do exactly that ...and offer a longer spacer to compensate !

but i know what you mean

Stephen

[rogson]

I have two 37mm OD, 390mm long, about 0.8kg/mm you can have for $20. PM me if you are interested.

Otherwise, I can recommend getting them made by National Springs (09 261 2300). I had a set of 0.95kg/mm made by them that I'm very happy with. Cost $125 for the pair (which is bloody good value IMO).

[Motu]

So how did you get a WoF with ilegal fork springs? Did you intimidate him,or maybe offer a bribe? I'd like to know please,cause I think I slipped up on the bribe part....

[Bonez]

So how did you get a WoF with ilegal fork springs? Did you intimidate him,or maybe offer a bribe? I'd like to know please,cause I think I slipped up on the bribe part....

:eyepoke:

[erik]

Eric I am just rushing out the door , I will have a look ..if you are not in a hurry i can probably help

Cool. I'm not in a hurry, I won't be selling the Zeal for 3 more weeks at least, need to save up a bit more money for a new bike.

I have two 37mm OD, 390mm long, about 0.8kg/mm you can have for $20. PM me if you are interested.

Otherwise, I can recommend getting them made by National Springs (09 261 2300). I had a set of 0.95kg/mm made by them that I'm very happy with. Cost $125 for the pair (which is bloody good value IMO).

Thanks, but 37mm OD won't fit. 32 is the max OD that I think will fit.
I'll keep National Springs in mind, that sounds like a better option than getting second hand springs from Oz.

So how did you get a WoF with ilegal fork springs? Did you intimidate him,or maybe offer a bribe? I'd like to know please,cause I think I slipped up on the bribe part....

[Brian d marge]

So how did you get a WoF with ilegal fork springs? Did you intimidate him,or maybe offer a bribe? I'd like to know please,cause I think I slipped up on the bribe part....

Hey can someone run this fork springs and Mot past me ..Cos ALL springs need to be cut ?
They are wound on a mandrel then the ends are cut and folded and ground depending on the end conditions required.

Now I can understand ya boy racer ,,I ve seen dampers with springs that have been cut so they are loose ...

but if you are not altering the height of the vehilcle ( and infact springs suited to your wieght are actually safer )

How does the Law come in to this ...

Stephen

[Bonez]

Hey can someone run this fork springs and Mot past me ..Cos ALL springs need to be cut ?
They are wound on a mandrel then the ends are cut and folded and ground depending on the end conditions required.

Now I can understand ya boy racer ,,I ve seen dampers with springs that have been cut so they are loose ...

but if you are not altering the height of the vehilcle ( and infact springs suited to your wieght are actually safer )

How does the Law come in to this ...

Stephen

IT WAS A PISS TAKE!!!

[Brian d marge]

IT WAS A PISS TAKE!!!

Well it went steaming past me ........Must be that famous Kiwi humour I ve read so much about !!!

Stephen

[erik]

It's not entirely a piss take, as far as I know it's illegal to either heat suspension springs or cut them, I'm not entirely sure, I haven't seen the actual legislation.
I should probably go look it up...

Here we go, found it:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/publications...-sys-v2-1a.pdf

On page 4 it says that LVV certification (Low Volume Vehicle certification) is not required if...
"replacement springs have not been heated or cut"

Which mine have. Therefore they are illegal unless I can get LVV certification.

[Motu]

I've had fork springs made several times,they are usualy very cheap compared to new OE.Back in the 70s I had new springs made for my Ceriani's for $2 each! But last time I had some made,for my KT250,I was told they weren't able to get the correct grade of steel for fork springs so couldm't offer any sort of guarantee...it was only for an old trials bike so I didn't care.

[Bonez]

It's not entirely a piss take, as far as I know it's illegal to either heat suspension springs or cut them, I'm not entirely sure, I haven't seen the actual legislation.
I should probably go look it up...

Here we go, found it:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/publications...-sys-v2-1a.pdf

On page 4 it says that LVV certification (Low Volume Vehicle certification) is not required if...
"replacement springs have not been heated or cut"

Which mine have. Therefore they are illegal unless I can get LVV certification.

How the hell are they going to know that's been done on the springs in front forks of a m/c?

[Motu]

LTNZ confirs upon WoF testers certain powers not available to mortal men,one is the ability to look right through metal,to see it's very structure.Heated and cut fork springs are easy to pick - that's why I suspect Erik was able to somehow bribe the doddery old fool who inspected his bike...but he mislaid the bribe I think.