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Thread: bandit 1200 shock same as '96 gsxr1000?

  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge
    Spring controls the load . Shims control the SPEED of the shaft movement up to the point where the shim opening is not enough to pass the oil trying to get through and the whole thing goes solid on you !

    If your 105kg ,,you need a spring that suits your weight . you cant avoid that ,,,,no matter where you run to

    Stephen
    YOU CANT TELL ME THAT IF BOTH ARE WRONG AND YOU FIX ONE THERE WONT BE AN IMPOVEMENT , YES THERE MEANT TO HARMONIZE BUT IN THE REAL WORLD THERES COMPROMISES

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    Quote Originally Posted by WINJA
    YOU CANT TELL ME THAT IF BOTH ARE WRONG AND YOU FIX ONE THERE WONT BE AN IMPOVEMENT , YES THERE MEANT TO HARMONIZE BUT IN THE REAL WORLD THERES COMPROMISES
    No for example if you have the incorrect spring rate its possible to jack up the preload to get the correct sag settings
    But what happens then is the shaft will rebound with more force ( worst case it will almost leap of the bumps

    Revalving will change the forces which the shims will open or close adding shims makes the stack stiffer removing them softer ( this is the quick version)

    So yes you could run a softer spring , jack the preload up then run stiffer rebound shim stack ,,,all this will do is make the oil work like a basket and feel a bit harsh is certain parts of the stroke depnding on what shims have been changed

    What was happening to me was as I hit the whoops the soft spring didnt handle the load , so the shim stack when solid in me and it felt like fell flat on me face withmy arms stretched out in front of me ..ie the spring couldnt handle the load the shims were at max deflection and the oil hydrauliced ( went solid on me )

    I pick up a new set of springs today !!

    Stephen

    mind you on the road you will never meet 4 foot pot holes!!
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    So I took my Mother (100kg?) for a fang through the Kawarau Gorge. Blow me down if it didn't sit a hell of a lot better. Wassup?
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