some wheelie tips pls..?

[EZAS]

I could wheelie a gpx 250 in the underground carpark of Ihug. I used to practice every lunch break (which working nights is around about 9PM).
I could only really wheelie from a stand still, then jump off the back, take one step then jump back on. Basically just dump the clutch dead on 5,000rpm and watch it rise, jump off, shutdown the throttle and jump back on. It used to come down pretty hard.
As soon as I got the 600 I couldn't really do anything unless I opened the throttle in 1st, even then it was only rising a few inches. Just enough to feel it when it rose.
Now I'm on the 900, I'm too scared to do anything. It doesn't feel like I can just open the throttle to get the wheel to rise, I think this is cos the power doesnt come ontill abit later, I need more bottom end torque, but I can't handle riding 1000cc V Twins as there, too touchy.

[bugjuice]

I think I can see the problem......yer going too slow. Try it at 100kph instead of 55, it'll be much more controlable.
The rear brake covering is bs, it's something else you gotta think about instead of what yer doing.....none of the good wheelie guys I know cover the rear.I've never had to use the brake to bring one down and I've had it pretty high at times.As long as you don't freak and lift yer feet off the pegs you'll be fine.

my bike doesn't seem to have the torque to lift the front up at that speed. I've had it in third and had the front up which was hard, but that started around 80 odd and came down around 130, but they're even less frequent than second gear decent ones.
May be some private tuition is needed some time..

[Highlander]

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Cruising just posted this (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=24165) probably more of a how not to than a how too.

[loosebruce]

my bike doesn't seem to have the torque to lift the front up at that speed. I've had it in third and had the front up which was hard, but that started around 80 odd and came down around 130, but they're even less frequent than second gear decent ones.
May be some private tuition is needed some time..

Fucken aye it can lift up at speed, remeber when you were on me Gix and i was on your ZX? I brought it up at around 110kph in 2nd.
In all honesty the 636 was one of the nicer bikes i've wheelied, better than a GSXR600, those extra cubes help quite nicley.
The faster you go the easier it is!
Clutching it up i always found it easiest to pin the throttle to the stop, and just ping the clutch, more or less clutch to how fast you going, and it'll just start to rise. It's a matterof just holding it on the stop until you reach the disried height, then backing off slightly, i think this is where you're having your next hurdle, chances are you shut off rather than back off a notch.
The stunt night thingee the other month once you got out there i saw a few nice looking ones from you Kit, it's as said a practice thing, it could take another 3 months or a year, but if you dont practice you wont get any better, reckon you should bring your bike tomorrow night and have another go, or if you're keen go down on tuesday night, i'm sure me, Death or Trashy would be keen to come along, camera n all.
And as said to it's real hard to loop a bike espeshly at the stage you're at, as when you think you're high you're not "that" high kinda thing, shutting off is mostly enough to bring it down. Some people preach rear brake and i know how effective it can be from my push bike, but i've never used it on a motorbike, but it can't hurt to cover it, but chances are if you're going over you wont think about whacking the brake anyway.

[Two Smoker]

Grow some balls!!!!! That or buy a K4 or K5 GSX-R 600 as they come up real smooth in first. you'll feel it when it hits balance point. Try hooking second when you think its getting too high. If its not very high it will go down smoothly in second gear and if its near balance point it will stay up in second...

[loosebruce]

Sorry to say thsi Chris but the 636 is nicer to wheelie than a K4-K5, never thought i'd say that, but i like the GSXR more when it comes to getting on it on the road, and stoppies the GSXR is a minta.

[bugjuice]

sweeeeeet

so that's why my engine is shagged then?
it's in the shop at the mo actually, having some open heart surgery. When I get it back, I've just decided to balance using this instead of relying on this Then if I can ignore the stomach feeling, and just concentrate on what the nuggin is puttin together, then I can grow some balls to just keep it up. And yeah, it hurts to fall off (hope I won't), but that's what insurance is for, ay Dover..?
btw, got any good excuses?

[bugjuice]

sweeeeeet

so that's why my engine is shagged then?
it's in the shop at the mo actually, having some open heart surgery. When I get it back, I've just decided to balance using this instead of relying on this Then if I can ignore the stomach feeling, and just concentrate on what the nuggin is puttin together, then I can grow some balls to just keep it up. And yeah, it hurts to fall off (hope I won't), but that's what insurance is for, ay Dover..?
btw, got any good excuses?

[Quasievil]

sweeeeeet

so that's why my engine is shagged then?
it's in the shop at the mo actually, having some open heart surgery. When I get it back, I've just decided to balance using this instead of relying on this Then if I can ignore the stomach feeling, and just concentrate on what the nuggin is puttin together, then I can grow some balls to just keep it up. And yeah, it hurts to fall off (hope I won't), but that's what insurance is for, ay Dover..?
btw, got any good excuses?

Buggy, youre like me mate, essentially youve head fucked yourself, you know you can do it, lord knows you got the bike to do it, but like me your thinking what if this, or what if that.
I reckon you just need to practice and practice to get more comfortable.

For me ,Ive had it up before (nothing fantastic mind) but Im not really comfortable with it, I dont really care if I can or cant, be nice to for a show off moment or three but I think I will sneak in the odd bit of practice

[Two Smoker]

Sorry to say thsi Chris but the 636 is nicer to wheelie than a K4-K5, never thought i'd say that, but i like the GSXR more when it comes to getting on it on the road, and stoppies the GSXR is a minta.

Are you becoming a homo??? hehehe... fair enough...

[crazefox]

Or you could buy a big powerful bike

[jonbuoy]

Wear a heavy backpack if you want the front end to come up easier - on any bike. It makes you sit more upright in the seat and puts more weight at the rear of the bike and helps with the balance. Just be carefull you don't bin it with the pack on.

[larriken]

Wear a heavy backpack if you want the front end to come up easier - on any bike. It makes you sit more upright in the seat and puts more weight at the rear of the bike and helps with the balance. Just be carefull you don't bin it with the pack on.

mmmmm I think I've heard it all now! You can stick you grandmother on the back, it doesn't matter, you ain't going to wheelie any easier unless you just grow some stones. Simple as that.

[jonbuoy]

mmmmm I think I've heard it all now! You can stick you grandmother on the back, it doesn't matter, you ain't going to wheelie any easier unless you just grow some stones. Simple as that.

The above is true - try it.

[White trash]

The above is true - try it.

Check out some pics bro, he doesn't need to try it.

I'm with Larriken on this, if you're not prepared to give it a good shot, you'll never succeed at wheelies.

If you're nervous, small steps first. Full throttle acceleration in first from 50kph. As the revs build, the front lifts. You get more and more comfortable with it and the wheelies get longer and longer. That's how I started.