chopping ears off

[Colapop]

Polled cattle are those that genetically do not produce horns. The poll gene is a recessive trait that has been carefully selected for in some breeds -- most famously the Polled Angus, for which there is now no horned form. Merely lopping the horns off or bud-burning young cattle makes them hornless, not polled.

Mikey, get a Polled Angus - those f*ckers are badasses! The old man got a couple of calves from the saleyards to fatten up and chucked them in the river paddock (wild place) for about 18 months. When we got them out, the Hereford was fine (dumbass) but the Angus! That f*cker was as mean as it was black - and it was as dark as the black night.




wasn't badder than the .303 though...

[Skyryder]

I think there is a breed of cattle called Black Pole. Real mean mother fuckers. Especaialy the cows with young. They had horns. Short stubby ones.

Skyryder

[Hitcher]

The Black Poll is just another name for a Polled Angus (or Aberdeen Angus, they're all the same). The Murray Grey is a stablised recessive grey-gene Angus and is also polled. Polled cattle inherit lack of horns, so if cattle have stubby horns, they have been dehorned rather than being genetically disposed that way.

[Colapop]

Horns or no horns an Angus will still have a go at ya. The go best with roast taters and fresh greens!

Along the same lines - polling a cattle beast is that in the same category as polling a dog's ears or tail? I'm speaking in terms of the humanity of the procedure. Would the procedure affect the animal (cattle) in the same way as as it would a dog? Or even sheep for that matter? Although I understand given the fly stike problem it's a health related issue for sheep.

[mikey]

his hair would be a good start

my girl had a hack at it few weeks ago........

I pity any dog that is forced to live on planet Mikey.

awwww shucks thats nice mate

If you want to protect your property, spouse, stash - buy a gun and have the balls to use it!

already got an arsenal, but im not at home all day long. which is why i want a dog!

I wouldn't sanction giving mikey a bike licence let alone a gun licence!

dont have either...... but who honestly lets having a licence stop them.

i formally volunteer to hold little mikey down while someone "trims" his ears.
come on mikey - it's not a big thing - right?

Ok Badcat you're on, I formally volunteer to do the cutting. Now, let's see - I have a rusty old Stanley knife in my toolbox and I think we'll dispense with the alcohol and piece of wood for biting on, eh?

Where's Mikey gone? You're conspicuous by your absence matey. Oh, BTW, I've found my rusty Stanley knife - ready when you are

what a bunch of useless fuks. slight lack of comprehension skills....
read the first post in the thread. thendo come round with "your stanley knife an chop my ears off to improve my image an make me look mean" if you still think thats what im on about. but if your really that thick, you wont find my place even if i showed you the way. an you probably cant work a stanley knife either.

good day fukers.

[Hitcher]

Along the same lines - polling a cattle beast is that in the same category as polling a dog's ears or tail? I'm speaking in terms of the humanity of the procedure.

Dehorning cattle is covered by a code of welfare similar to the one for docking dogs. It's called the Painful Procedures Code and supports the Animal Welfare Act. In summary, horns can only be removed from adult cattle under verterinary supervision and with the necessary anaesthetic and blood coagulating drugs. Same go for velvetting stags.

[Ogri]

Well Mikey, you have just confirmed my opinion that you are an utter arsehole

[Colapop]

Dehorning cattle is covered by a code of welfare similar to the one for docking dogs. It's called the Painful Procedures Code and supports the Animal Welfare Act. In summary, horns can only be removed from adult cattle under verterinary supervision and with the necessary anaesthetic and blood coagulating drugs. Same go for velvetting stags.

Now that you mention it was there something in the paper last week (?) about a farmer than got fined for dehorning stags without proper vetinary supervision etc?

[Badcat]

waa waa waa waa.

I read your post first time.
why do you think vets won't do it?
because it's INHUMANE. butchering an animal for what boils down to your fashion sense is pretty low mikey.
and be called an idiot by YOU is pretty entertaining.

[buellbabe]

Hey Mikey, yr just not getting it are you?
You're entitled to yr own set of beliefs and moral code but as far as I am concerned no matter how much you try and justify ear-chopping- its mutilation.

[Jackrat]

Dehorning cattle is covered by a code of welfare similar to the one for docking dogs. It's called the Painful Procedures Code and supports the Animal Welfare Act. In summary, horns can only be removed from adult cattle under verterinary supervision and with the necessary anaesthetic and blood coagulating drugs. Same go for velvetting stags.

Unfortunatly some people are still ignoring these laws.
Makes me happy I no longer have anything to do with farming when these discusions come up.Some of the things still going on would make a person sick.

[SDU]

I haven't read the whole thread so if its been said before....

If you want a dog just because you want to look tuff- You shouldn't get one at all. If you want to have a dog for mutilation do it to your self first. See how painful and pointless it is to do. People who mistreat animals really Fuck me off there should be stronger penalties.
But If you want a dog as a guard dog, choose one from the pound, treat it good, as part off the family & it'll look out for you & yours out off loyalty. If you haven't trained a dog before go to classes.
If you go for a pure-breed research first. Some breeds are best not for 1st time owners, thats when they often end up in the pound or biting family & friends.
If you have any human decency talk to people who are in the veterinary field - cost you nothing to talk to nurses-animal welfare-breeders and learn what is best for you.

FACT: It is illegal to crop dogs ears here in NZ and many other countries.
It is something that is legal in the states- mainly to Danes & Dobermans & boxers-vets & others are trying to stop it over there too.

FACT: there are a lot off vets who refuse to dock dogs tails for fashion-including it being the standard for the breed.
Tail docking is under huge debate here. The Veterinary Association and welfare groups are trying to have it made illegal as well except for medical reasons. (Dogs tails are amputated due to serious injury where they can not save it)

It is not law to neuter/spay your dog / cat. It is encouraged as it reduces the risk of testicle, ovarian & mammary cancers in those pets as well as prevents thousands off unwanted animals.

[buellbabe]

2nd all that. I talked about my girls earlier in this thread. They are both rescued dogs and would fight to the death to protect me... cos they luv me and I give them the bestest life possible!

[scumdog]

I'm SURE mikey was just winding us all up, eh mikey? mikey?

[mikey]

ogri,

if i let ya chop my ears will ya chop my dog's when i get it?

thought so.

get fucked.

actually turn up at my house with ya rusty stanleyknife an ill take your own advice. i would be prepared to use equal and necesary force to protect myself etc. stanley knife weighs as much as a 303 bullet right. so its equal. right?