Speed? Not necessarily dangerous!

[Lou Girardin]

I am also a cage driver.....I keep to Centre still.

As per my previous post, do you think hitting a car door or T boning another car is a greater evil than a offset head-on collision?

[Grahameeboy]

As per my previous post, do you think hitting a car door or T boning another car is a greater evil than a offset head-on collision?

When my Daughter is in car....NO!!

[spudchucka]

All my cage induced frights have been by pricks cutting corners. Make it a capital offence I reckon.

A personal favourite of mine. $150 for being a lazy arsed wanker, love it.

[Motu]

But,but....it's OK for us Pajero drivers isn't it?

[Lou Girardin]

But,but....it's OK for us Pajero drivers isn't it?

You have an exemption. It's hard to steer with just one hand.

[Rashika]

You have an exemption. It's hard to steer with just one hand.

guess that all cantabs must have an exemption as well...us only have one eye and all

[Lou Girardin]

guess that all cantabs must have an exemption as well...us only have one eye and all

Maybe, but there's a physical reason why Pajero drivers only have one hand to steer with.
At least the name is apt.
Unlike Bighorn.

[SPman]

I must admit, that with the amount of yellow no passing lines around, all geared to the average car and drivers abilities and speeds, I will often pass and cross the line, if I know I have got clear roads throughout the 4 secs it takes for the manouvre. ...........Of course, this combines (illegal) speed, with making informed judgement calls on road conditions, driver behaviour, visibility ahead and possibility of obstructions/hazards. All perfectly safe in the situations I do it. Utilising the full spectrum of a bikes dynamics, which are so different from a cars or trucks. But, if caught, I am judged under the same criteria as cars or trucks! It is deemed to be highly dangerous in all aspects - excessive speed (shock horror, child killer!) Crossing the yellow, which, society KNOWS and the papers tell us, will lead immediately to a head on collision, killing innocent families of cute kids! We are becoming so obsessed with a "one size fits all", no allowance for different dynamics, numbers on a meter, enforcement policy, that we have lost sight of the objective.
Traffic policing should be in the hands of experienced, mature well trained police, who are given a broad set of sensible guidelines and then are left to do the job that’s important, ensuring the traffic is flowing in a safe manner for the conditions prevailing in the area and time, unhindered by obsessions on one small aspect (speed, generally), quotas, points, political agendas, etc. ie – discretion. More plain cars targeting erratic behaviour, bad driving practices, inconsiderate drivers…driven by cops who are actually aware and knowledgeable about what is going on. There are police out there who do try, but it seems more and more succumb to the pressures imposed by their bosses and political masters and take the easy way out....ie...hammer the motorist on areas which are easy to score on, speed being the major one.
The media dont help - equating a vehicle doing 140k on a clean deserted road in the wops, with doing 140 up a congested clogged motorway - its all speed to them, conditions dont even enter into it! Sensationalise it! Demonise it. Convince the majority of people who don’t actually turn their brains on when driving, that anyone who speeds, is somehow a dangerous lunatic, who will fly, totally out of control, into THEIR vehicle. Bring back local area cops…they generally know who to watch out for, who the loonies are, the big risk drivers in their area..and the local conditions (right Spud, SD)

Shit – I’m raving again….

[miSTa]

Shit – I’m raving again…. [/FONT]

You are indeed, trouble is it makes sense.

[buellbabe]

Well said SPman! Theres 1 thing that really irritates me when I'm on a group ride in heavy traffic... and thats when the bike in front of me CAN pass safely but WON'T bcos of dble yellow lines... aaaargh! You're on a bike for christs sake! You're not in a car!!!!!

[Rashika]

Well said SPman! Theres 1 thing that really irritates me when I'm on a group ride in heavy traffic... and thats when the bike in front of me CAN pass safely but WON'T bcos of dble yellow lines... aaaargh! You're on a bike for christs sake! You're not in a car!!!!!

yep, well that'd be me then... unless i can stay inside the dble yellows, then I will definately pass. Otherwise I wait, there is a reason for them being there (maybe not always appropriate nor apparent for a bike rider, but we do have to cater for the lowest common denominator on the roads eh?)...and it aint gonna kill me to wait, it might if I dont

[buellbabe]

yep, well that'd be me then... unless i can stay inside the dble yellows, then I will definately pass. Otherwise I wait, there is a reason for them being there (maybe not always appropriate nor apparent for a bike rider, but we do have to cater for the lowest common denominator on the roads eh?)...and it aint gonna kill me to wait, it might if I dont

You WHAT?? So theres a stretch of road where you can pass safely and yr seriously telling me you WON'T just becos theres some namby-pamby dbl yelo's???

[buellbabe]

Just to clarify... I'm not stoopid! Obviously I am talking about a situation where you can clearly see the road ahead... sometimes there will be dbl yelo's merely cos the road is narrow which may be an issue for cars but is no problem for a bike... As Spman said, most road rules are geared towards cars with absolutely no thought given to the difference tween car and motorbike...

[Rashika]

You WHAT?? So theres a stretch of road where you can pass safely and yr seriously telling me you WON'T just becos theres some namby-pamby dbl yelo's???

yep
But dont know of many round here (even the hilltop road does not have many) so it doesn't happen often... fk lot of em around Queenstown tho... oh yeah kinda a lot of tourists round there too, they seem to like the wrong side of the road for some reason as well?

Seriously tho, dble yelos mean something, usually to do with lack of visibility... and unless you know the road really well (which is something else entirely!), I've had enough scares to warrent staying inside them, be it in the car or bike.

[buellbabe]

Yeah hearing ya mate... you can ride behind me OK? ;-)