Sponsorship

[Shaun]

Shawn I think You are one level above what Im thinking.
To use two KB racers as examples
KK and two smoke -Both showing tallent at club level but needing that boost up from club to national level.
Yep they are doing all they can to get there themselves but a bit of support from those around them -who are interested in their future can help.
Realisticly I think national level is where people get noticed by people like you and given they have proven themselves can be pulled into a team.



This is exactually what I was talking about Frosty,

If there is any real talent out there it will be noticed, and it will be noticed sooner rather than later, why, because we all like a trier, some one who works hard and plays fair

KK and twosmoke have put the graft in and now there turn is coming

And next year it will be some one else's unless they really stand out

How many of these club level riders do you know that has 2 jobs?
How many of them have the fancy clothes and the kool hair cut?

I am not trying to be negative here, but I really get sick of hearing about how this and that rider cannot afford to do the sport they choise to take up.

[FROSTY:Me]

I see plenty of club level racers with the "gears" but then they are happy doing what they are doing. They don't aspire to be the best.
I get your point about wanting it really bad and giving your all to get it
Anyhoo--2 jobs is for pussys--a real man can hold down 3 even 4

[Steve_R6R]

Sponsorship is esential in this sport, but reguardless of the level of support a racer gets, it is up to the individual rider to perform on the track. "I can't afford it" hides alot of other reasons not to race. or to give up racing. There are, I feel, two types of sponsors, 1: "within industry" sponsors who can provide knowledge and advice (such as Shaun) and your local motorcycle shop who can provide products at reasonable rates (cost plus abit), these guys have to eat as well so try not to screw too much money out of them. And 2: "outside industry" sponsors. These are the guys with the cash to put into something that they can see, be invoved with, and show off to their mates. You have to tell them how special you are, and how you can make them special as well, with just a bit of cash and some sign writting. You have to approach alot of people, take alot of knock backs, but with practice you will get better at convincing people to part with their cash.

[Brian d marge]

been following this thread, abit while I agree with the idea Just do it . ( last year at an Enduro I stuffed a rim and a tyre , but I thought well you get no prizes untill you cross that finish line !!!)
Came second. so the Just do it , I agree with

but the cap in hand , thing I would like to modify. Cap in hand , the world owes me a living ,,I cant do this cos it cost to much money ,,,

Dont come near me with that attitude. ( I am already surrounded by enough people who say cant ,,,dont need anymore )

But cap in hand , look I am doing this and will do this with or with out you ,,,but it would make my life easier if you could help

That I am all in favor off. An example Overseas racing

Take Japan as an example. I live just outside Tokyo ,, have a spare room, All the tools a mechanic would need ( as I am a Honda Mechanic ) a truck ... and Know a lot of people in the trade here. Including some suspension techs ( note watch a company called Nitron , the managing director is a very nice guy and has just bought a zx10 and given it to the boys to race at the 7 hour at Motegi ,,, Now is that an understanding fella or wot !!)

and would be more than happy to assist, Gav can tell you about how popular the St 600 class is here. ( did you watch those videos ? Gav?)

I am sure that there are people ALL over this world who would do the same thing.

Finally on another thread. Last night I QUICKLY checked how cheaply I could put together a decent F3 400
well using a Tj3 Yamaha one on trade me for 2500 nz and one here for 25000 yen * 4 days left so will double at least ) anyway I used kawasaki usd forks and a scruffy ohlins that I though may fit ( 35000 yen cheap )
anyway the whole lot came to 150 000 yen with out tyres 180 with a new set of Pilots ,

180 000 is about 2300 nz lets round it off to 5k for a bike that would be ( I think a good solid track bike and last for a couple of seasons )

So it can be done ( what race fairings too expensive , how about I come round your shop and push the broom , paint the walls , clean the dishes. for a few weekends ,,and we come to a deal on the fairings ..Just a thought ...)

gone off on a ramble ( is there a section in pointless drivel Just for my posts ..its not my fault its this medicine that nurse keeps giving me .....)

Stephen

Ps Shaun what part of Hokiado did you live in ??

[gav]

That Yamaha F3 400 would be a good club bike and might just break into the top 5 at the national level.
Hey Shaun, do you know Brendon Gare, from Timaru? He was racing a ZXR400 along with Jon Lowther a few yaers back, then borrowed heavily a got a Corona GSXR600. Had some help from Grant Ramage and a bit of backing of Suzuki NZ, did quite well, think he may still hold the lap record for 600 Sport Productions here at Ruapuna (set 2003) Saw him at the Nationals, had to quit racing, just working his arse off to pay all the bills/credit card etc.
Respect to him and others in same situation. Jon Lowther too, man, full credit to him, he runs a tidy professional outfit and is a fine example to show what can be done on a limited budget. Don't think he gets alot of outside assistance. Shame Yamaha dont throw more money his way. At least Suzuki NZ really seem to get behind the guys racing Suzuki's, shame more manufacturers dont do the same, but thats another rant, sorry.....Opps, more negative feedback!

[Kwaka-Kid]

KK and twosmoke have put the graft in and now there turn is coming

And next year it will be some one else's unless they really stand out

How many of these club level riders do you know that has 2 jobs?
How many of them have the fancy clothes and the kool hair cut?

I am not trying to be negative here, but I really get sick of hearing about how this and that rider cannot afford to do the sport they choise to take up.

Haha its too true! But like, i am only racing for all the ladies i seen on WSBK the other week, thats wicked.. ahhhhhhh...


Heres a new Idea!! How about like.. say.. KB sponsor my mortgage, then i can buy tyres and good stuff for the bike! Also the rates, and other such crap! Give give give! :P woo hoo im full of new ideas, its just a pitty they are all self-centered and suck! haha. Nah, dont be mentioning the 2 bad initials KK around these parts, its that fly-boy on the 600 we need to push up! He is the rocket with the massive pair!

[Shaun]

I see plenty of club level racers with the "gears" but then they are happy doing what they are doing. They don't aspire to be the best.
I get your point about wanting it really bad and giving your all to get it
Anyhoo--2 jobs is for pussys--a real man can hold down 3 even 4

Just to clarify my comment about trend

I used this scenario as an example only of riders asking for help that are already wearing the help they needed

[roogazza]

If there is any real talent out there it will be noticed, and it will be noticed sooner rather than later, why, because we all like a trier, some one who works hard and plays fair

KK and twosmoke have put the graft in and now there turn is coming
And next year it will be some one else's unless they really stand out

I am not trying to be negative here, but I really get sick of hearing about how this and that rider cannot afford to do the sport they choise to take up.

Excellent !!!!!!! Things are the same as they were 35 yrs ago ! Get out there and do it. I totally agree , do it cos you love it and if you are any good , help will come. What happened to patience and doing your time ??? G.

[denill]

Shaun, your input to KB is invaluable. You 'have been there and done that' (and still doing it!) and for that very reason KBrs are listening to you....... So somewhere down the track what they are taking on board may well provide a return to road racing in the form of increased participation. It is after all a numbers game. The more participants, the greater the depth of talent.

BTW, awhile ago you wrote - "Chris Peris who raced in my team is doing that series now and holding his head up, Qualified in 15th place at the first round last week, so that proves that Kiwi's are good enough based on his results and others performance out there."
Isn't Chris a Canadian??
Cheers
Bill

[k14]

BTW, awhile ago you wrote - "Chris Peris who raced in my team is doing that series now and holding his head up, Qualified in 15th place at the first round last week, so that proves that Kiwi's are good enough based on his results and others performance out there."
Isn't Chris a Canadian??
Cheers
Bill

Yep he's a canadian but i think he was trying to show that the NZ riders are able to be up there with the best. Peris was consistently finishing in the top 5 in the nz champs so it goes to show that all of those top guys (sherrifs, fitzgerald, smith, jones et al) are capable of doing it on a world stage.

[Shaun]

Shaun, your input to KB is invaluable. You 'have been there and done that' (and still doing it!) and for that very reason KBrs are listening to you....... So somewhere down the track what they are taking on board may well provide a return to road racing in the form of increased participation. It is after all a numbers game. The more participants, the greater the depth of talent.

BTW, awhile ago you wrote - "Chris Peris who raced in my team is doing that series now and holding his head up, Qualified in 15th place at the first round last week, so that proves that Kiwi's are good enough based on his results and others performance out there."
Isn't Chris a Canadian??
Cheers
Bill

Thanks Denill, I am only trying to give a bit back and trying to help younger riders not fall into the same mistakes that I made.

You know it will only take 20 enthusiasts to put up $500.00 dollards each ( Thats $ 1.40 per day) and there we have another rider/team with enough funding to go out and show us what they can do.

Have a nice day

[Quasievil]

Thanks Denill, I am only trying to give a bit back and trying to help younger riders not fall into the same mistakes that I made.

You know it will only take 20 enthusiasts to put up $500.00 dollards each ( Thats $ 1.40 per day) and there we have another rider/team with enough funding to go out and show us what they can do.

Have a nice day

Im into that, with a bit of exposure for QUASiMOTO leathers, fuck could even get branded matching leathers for the riders if needed

[Shaun]

Im into that, with a bit of exposure for QUASiMOTO leathers, fuck could even get branded matching leathers for the riders if needed

Quasievel. awsome! So now then, can you? Do you? Will you? make a tread based on this idea and deal with being the banker?

Mate, if one group runs with this simple idea we will see a chain reaction around the country, there is a huge bunch of NUTTERS on here that love bikes to the max!

This is not bludging money, nor begging for moey, it is a simple buisness transaction, you have something to sell and they want to be a part of it.

Have fun helping build a future for a new young rider

[Shade]

KK and twosmoke have put the graft in and now there turn is coming

How many of these club level riders do you know that has 2 jobs?
How many of them have the fancy clothes and the kool hair cut?

Hahah, Definately Not KK - -

A) KK has been working 2 jobs for as long as I remember
B) He usually comes around to my place and I cut his hair - bearing in mind we're mates and I have never cut hair before in my life, hahah

And yet havent heard him complain about money - Only the stories about "Bro, if i cant afford the nationals ill drive down in my van and sleep in it if need be. Dont care about accomodation!"

And then theres the
KK : "Yeh bro, crashed in the van at paeroa (2 yrs ago)
Shade : "What you have for dinner? Breakfast?
KK : "Loaf of bread bro!! Save money!"

[MadDuck]

Well Ill be damned. Aint it amazing the take that people have on an idea. I kinda started the thread knowing we have a hell of a lot of talented guys wantning to race needing some funding help.

OK they all aint going to be Valentino or Stroud... NO HEAR ME NOW they all aint going to be that fast but hey why not help some of them out.

I now have one word for that idea ...BACKFIRE!

I am more than happy to help with funding replacement leathers (as long as they Quasimoto) of said rider should that be needed.