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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder
    at the risk of dragging this back on topic... there are two issues here

    1) Did Carter (honorable or otherwise) break the rules by vetoing the decision?
    2) Should a member of the executive be able to veto decisions of the courts?

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    yeah but THAT ISNT WHAT HAPPENED




    the developer still has their consents to do what they needed consents to do (the land use stuff).

    they ALSO needed a permit (or whatever) from the Minister of Conversation to use the seabed or part of it.

    So actually there is no over ruling of the courts decision at all. it stands (and subject to an appeals process).

    AND the Ministers decision is subject to judicial review.

    So in fact what will probably happen is a High Court judicial review of the Ministers decision, and possibly heard at the same time as any appeal from the local authority.


    the guy I know who does this stuff for a living wasnt involved in this, but his comment was "!4 years! must have been a gravy train while it lasted". And he confirmed the judicial review thing.

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    i think its good that hes stopped them going ahead with a marina, i really dont give a toss if some rich fucks dont have somewhere to park their boats , especially at the expense of other peoples use of the area .
    instead of worrying about this shit that effect the rights of .003% of the population all you guys should be worried about the rights of the masses being tramplled over like cancellation of life time licences and 28 day loss of licence with no court apearance

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    Quote Originally Posted by WINJA
    .......instead of worrying about this shit that effect the rights of .003% of the population all you guys should be worried about the rights of the masses being tramplled over like cancellation of life time licences and 28 day loss of licence with no court apearance
    He's right! This is more the arm of (not so) insidious control, than a minister saying they cant dredge the seabed....
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by WINJA
    i think its good that hes stopped them going ahead with a marina, i really dont give a toss if some rich fucks dont have somewhere to park their boats , especially at the expense of other peoples use of the area .
    instead of worrying about this shit that effect the rights of .003% of the population all you guys should be worried about the rights of the masses being tramplled over like cancellation of life time licences and 28 day loss of licence with no court apearance
    Discussion needs to start somewhere!!!
    If you are worried about rights of the masses being tramplled over like cancellation of life time licences and 28 day loss of licence with no court apearance then start a thread.

    We are all reading because we are concerned, like to be informed, and would like to discuss issues as they are raised. Let us know what you think instead of telling us what you think we should be discussing...we are adults and probably capable of contributing to more than one thread at a time

    As for the rich people comments...WTF is up with that?
    You hate them because they are rich? I admire people who have got off their asses to make success in their life (that said if it was done with ethics).

    Look at you, you work hard and have been able to buy nice material things because of it...I admire that too.

    Giving people shit or discounting progress because someone had an idea that might make them profit is lame in my opinion Entrepreneurs are employers and the life blood of the NZ economy ...tall poppies...no wonder...successful people are leaving in droves!!!
    I've finished okay...there are no last words of wisdom...it's time to pull your pants up and go home!

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    dont confuse being rich with getting off your arse or working hard.
    the thing is once its a marina itll stay a marina and the damage is done holding off for now is not a big deal, there will be some people not represented in the consultation , some without lawers , some who like the water front just how it is , with a marina theres always polution and contamination of sea beds ,theres always the whoopsy doodle ive just emptied my bilge by accident types .
    itll end up like westhaven , try parking a mk3 cortina down there without getting harrased by security

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    Quote Originally Posted by WINJA
    try parking a mk3 cortina down there without getting harrased by security
    Mate, I'm sorry to have to tell you this but it was because you've got a bit of brown in you. It wasn't the cortina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn
    Mate, I'm sorry to have to tell you this but it was because you've got a bit of brown in you. It wasn't the cortina.
    IM NOT THAT BROWN , JUST SLIGHTLY DARKER THAN A SCOTSMAN

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    Quote Originally Posted by WINJA
    IM NOT THAT BROWN , JUST SLIGHTLY DARKER THAN A SCOTSMAN
    That's enough to raise suspicion.

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