Taranaki farmer aquitted

**Indoo** · 14th March 2006, 11:18

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

Where do you draw the line then?
Compulsion has been NZ Govts approach to everything for a good while now. It's gone past basic measures, it's now nanny state interference in most aspects of our lives.
Like some other site members I started riding when helmets weren't required and, surprise surprise, I didn't die. I speed and I haven't died. I've done a few things people would frown on and haven't died. Those that do are just natures culling of the herd.

BTW Grahameeboy, there's an awful lot of reference to bollocks. People are starting to talk.

You have to draw the line somewhere and letting a 4 year old ride a 400kg quad bike in dangerous condition with no supervision and no safety gear/helmet is way over that line. That kid would be having more fun on a mini quad wearing a helmet and would still be alive today. He took stupid risks with his kids life, risks that a father should be protecting his kids from.

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

But he's a sportsman Spud, thereby having immunity from any consequences.
They even bailed another thug to go. This one committed a grievious assault while on bail for unlawful taking.
Play rep sport in NZ and you're sweet.

I think your talking about the guy who was on bail for aggravated robbery and then assaulted some young guys and put them in hospital.

Fortunately Aussie actually gives a crap about protecting the public and denied the peice of shit entry.

**Krusti** · 14th March 2006, 11:30

I agree that OSH etc has got out of hand re resposibility for others actions, but yes this applies to being responsible for other adults stupid actions.

There have been times when I have been glad that there are laws in place that make me accountable as a parent.

A case in point is when my son was 13, he wanted to go out shooting with his mate. Having seen how easy it was for so called accidents to happen and having attended a couple of fatalities in years gone by I was not willing to allow him to unless I was there in charge.

Being able to explain to him that I would be locked up or charged if the outing went to shit gave me some backing for my decision. Let alone my own fear that I was going to cop it if things went wrong.

One of the things I have tried to instill in my kids is that all decisions have a consequence be it good or bad.

We need to remember this as parents.

Not all laws are bad.

**Finn** · 14th March 2006, 11:52

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Bollocks Finn.....sorry found a bad bone.....it is nothing to do with Social Engineering but I agree that Lou is wasting his time.

I am not a conformist leper and all this thread is about, is responsibility. Most people make their own decisions and yes in this case a 4 year old kid dies.......there is nothing wrong in having accountability.

I do not want Govt control but on the other hand someone has too and we do get to vote so we do have some control....not 100% I accept.

NZ is not the laughing stock of the world for our values......look at the bigger picture.
Grrrrrr

Hey, no needs to yell eh.

So what good is prosecuting this farmer going to do? Don't you think he feels enough guilt as it is? What good is a prison sentence or fine to him or society. Does prosecution and fines stop you from exceeding the speed limit on your bike? Ah no of course not. Does the death penality stop murders? Of course not. If we're going down this path then we should prosecute half of the maori & pacific island population for neglecting their children but of course we can't say this. Best we go after an easier target like a hard working, tax paying kiwi.

Quick, sell their bikes cause you wouldn't want to go to jail if they fell off because it was hot and they didn't want to wear their once piece spidi. Fuck, lets just lock our kids up inside and give them a playstation and a DVD on how evil white people are.

**Finn** · 14th March 2006, 11:58

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Funny how Lou and Finn dissappear when the going gets tough eh......geeze no wonder they cannot handle today's society.........eh lad when I lived in 'ole in ground, with li'tle 'ole in ground fur toilet....those were days, riding on cobbled roads t'bakers......them days w're 'ard

I didn't dissapear, I was shagging your misses. Mate, could you do me a favour and ask her to lay off the cookies?

**Grahameeboy** · 14th March 2006, 12:03

Originally Posted by Finn

Hey, no needs to yell eh.

Yeah but a quiet boy like me sometimes has to yell.

So what good is prosecuting this farmer going to do? Don't you think he feels enough guilt as it is? What good is a prison sentence or fine to him or society. Does prosecution and fines stop you from exceeding the speed limit on your bike? Ah no of course not. Does the death penality stop murders? Of course not. If we're going down this path then we should prosecute half of the maori & pacific island population for neglecting their children but of course we can't say this. Best we go after an easier target like a hard working, tax paying kiwi.

So we give up then......read my previous posts, including the one about my disabled daughter.

Quick, sell their bikes cause you wouldn't want to go to jail if they fell off because it was hot and they didn't want to wear their once piece spidi. Fuck, lets just lock our kids up inside and give them a playstation and a DVD on how evil white people are.

Give me the key mate........

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**Grahameeboy** · 14th March 2006, 12:06

Originally Posted by Finn

I didn't dissapear, I was shagging your misses. Mate, could you do me a favour and ask her to lay off the cookies?

........did she tell you she had herpes.......well why should she......she hasn't told her new boyfriend yet.......

**Grahameeboy** · 14th March 2006, 12:57

Originally Posted by Finn
I didn't dissapear, I was shagging your misses. Mate, could you do me a favour and ask her to lay off the cookies?

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

........did she tell you she had herpes.......well why should she......she hasn't told her new boyfriend yet.......

So what did the Dr say Finn??

**Winston001** · 14th March 2006, 13:44

Originally Posted by Ixion

A conviction for manslaughter would certainly be a major problem if he wished to enter another country.I think people are being VERY naive also in assuming that in the event of a conviction he would not have gone to gaol. I'm pretty certain he would have.

Fair enough. Just FYI:

Turton - failure to fence swimming pool - child drowned - manslaughter- $1000 fine

Ruscoe - assisted tetraplegic mate's suicide - unlawful act - 1 years supervision.

Farmer's tractor parked on road at dusk - car hits loader bucket - driver killed - $1000 fine.

Manslaughter sentences rang from 15 years imprisonment right down to a fine or supervision (ie. wet bus ticket).

**Finn** · 14th March 2006, 14:00

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

So what did the Dr say Finn??

He said that the medication I'm currently taking for HIV should keep the Herpes under control. What's confusing now is I don't know if the lesions on my willy are herpes or HIV related. I just told your misses I was wearing a ribbed condom.

**Grahameeboy** · 14th March 2006, 14:06

Originally Posted by Finn

He said that the medication I'm currently taking for HIV should keep the Herpes under control. What's confusing now is I don't know if the lesions on my willy are herpes or HIV related. I just told your misses I was wearing a ribbed condom.

they will come out in a few days.....all you can get is cream so pills for HIV will be no good.........maybe the lesion is your willy

Geeze, I am lucky I am single and not exposed to these evils..........

**Finn** · 14th March 2006, 14:11

Originally Posted by Grahameeboy

Geeze, I am lucky I am single and not exposed to these evils..........

That's why you're so uptight. Mate, we need to get you laid. WINJA'S mums good for a shag. Just turn up with a packet of roll your owns and a bottle of cherry and she'll love you like there's no tomorrow.

**Grahameeboy** · 14th March 2006, 14:19

Originally Posted by Finn

That's why you're so uptight. Mate, we need to get you laid. WINJA'S mums good for a shag. Just turn up with a packet of roll your owns and a bottle of cherry and she'll love you like there's no tomorrow.

What gave ya the idea......given my other posts...... that I am uptight Mr Finny........just having honest fun............but I have to admit this Thread was close to my heart and I miss saying Bollocks...such a great word....and Lou, sorry Lou but you are a Dickhead sometimes and I gotta have some fun........but ya know it is a shame we generally tend to look at the negatives in life and we miss what is good about life..........buy ya a beer some day eh?

Not sure about WINJA'S Mum......like no tomorrow.....I like my tomorrow's and having WINJA watching every move rather than getting invvolved would not be fair........and don't ya mean 'lose her cherry'

**Lou Girardin** · 14th March 2006, 15:01

No, you got it wrong there grahameeboy, we enjoy the good things in life and talk, bitch and moan about the bad. Because they're more fun to talk about.
If all we did was talk about the good things we'd be Merkins.

**Grahameeboy** · 14th March 2006, 15:13

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

No, you got it wrong there grahameeboy, we enjoy the good things in life and talk, bitch and moan about the bad. Because they're more fun to talk about.
If all we did was talk about the good things we'd be Merkins.

so talking about good things = female pudendum??

I will reserve judgement Lou as I cannot get my head around moaning about the bad cause a) there ain't a lot of bad from my point of view and b) I like to talk about the good things in life so guess the pills are working...