For COPS only

[Grahameeboy]

Accidents happend in less than a second thats why i dont want children will not be able to live with myself if it happens to me

No mate they are a joy.......ya cannot live life that way......I may only have 20 years with Nats and the old saying "Life is too short" is very true mate so don't be so negative, find a women and have some sprogs......now I say

[Lazy7]

wow - i am going to go wait outside...

[GIXser]

Geezuz is that right? Screw the cops on that job then. Why would they do that? Just to be a prick or to get kudos from senior officers?

exactly my point!!!!! i know there are a "lot of good cops out there" but they seem to be far and few between--

[GIXser]

It was an accident but a 4 year old on a quad rounding up sheep is still a bit irresponsible......saying go slow to the girl was not enough..sorry, lots of sympathy but irresponsible.......what was more important, the cal or his Daughter's safety.

I agree prosecution was harsh in the circumstances, however, he was responsible for what happened.....life is tough.

Take my situation. My just turned 3 year old has a powered wheelchair and it was a pre-requiste that I had to have a remote control to stop her in an emergency........I never, never take her out without having the remote because I love her to bits and despite her short life expectancy, there is no way I am gonna put her in danger......if my cell phone rang and I hoped off...well nuff said..

there is no doubt it was irresponsible" however common sense" should step in dont you think???(by the police that is)

[Hoon]

You need to look at the bigger picture to understand the reasoning.

Its sad that this farmers daughter was killed but quad bike deaths are becoming a lot more frequent lately. People need to realise that they aren't toys and yes its sad that this farmer was made an example of.

Justice was done and he got off but the important thing is that now the message is out there and people will think twice about letting kids ride around unsupervised on Quads. Sure this farmer may have suffered more than he needed too but in the long run he has probably saved others from the same fate.

The Police are only doing their job and it can get dirty at times.

[Lou Girardin]

Ther's probably several reasons why they prosecuted - none of them would stand up to scrutiny. Which is why they came up with the ridiculous reason Of "bringing the issue to public awareness". Just another ill-conceived decision by people who are becoming increasingly isolated from the public.
We're long overdue for an independant dept of prosecutions. Take these decisions away from the cops.

[GIXser]

The day some mental case bursts into your home & starts to butt-fuck you & shoot ya family, I wonder who you will be screaming for on the phone to come & help.... ? Would like to see you make a sacrifice & quite your day time job to become a cop & make the world a better place. Dick head !

ok ,,,so you are obviously a fuckin pig---- let me tell you" if the above happened to me , i wont call you lot,, you are to busy, " i can recall plenty of cases in the not to distant past" where people have had shit stolen from their property etc etc, only for the cops to turn up several weeks later, and or assaults, with no police response " dont you read the news !!!! and YEAH yeah , we only hear the xtreme bad cases,on the news we dont hear the good things,, why is it then , i drive/ride through the top of symonds street only to find six pigs writing tickets, WOW thats fightin crime!!!!!

[Cookie]

Steady on.

[enigma51]

Depends if you could consider it forseeable that putting a 18kg 4 year old child in charge of a 400kg powerful quadbike, without a helmet and without supervision might possibly result in an accident.

It was a stupid waste of life that could have easily been prevented by the father either not allowing a 4 year old kid to drive a 400kg bike alone, or making sure that the child is supervised closely at all times when riding the bike or even better spending the 150 bucks it would have taken to buy the kid a helmet and save her life.

hmmmmm i had a 50cc motox at 4 and a xr 500 at 11 does that make my parents idiots or noticed that I have a love for something and I was going to do it in any case so why not try and help me out from a young age. And trust i had some accidents that could have gone realy bad.

Actualy my parents have friend who was laying paving and his daughter was playing behind him. She got on the gate (without him seeing) and slipped and the spike on top of the gate impaled her killing her instantly. Should he be trialed for not supervising his child or allowing her to play behind me? (He could not live with himself in any case so little too say his not with us anymore). As I said accidents happen if we knew when they where going to happen then at a point in time they are not accidents.

Another spin for you should the person or institution that gave you the ability to ride a motorcycle take responsibility for the accidents you might have some day (Lets hope it never happens) but should they take the responsibility

Cause thats how I see what happend (granted i dont have all the facts)

[Grahameeboy]

there is no doubt it was irresponsible" however common sense" should step in dont you think???(by the police that is)

well common sense did prevail......yep it took the Courts to decide but I guess that is the judical system.....I mean is there much difference between this and some drunk cager who gets in a car and kills someone..............both were irresponsible.....how do you decide on the degree of

I know the Father has suffered enough but then the drunk drive has suffered too..............he made a mistake too.

The problem with these stories is that it involves a 4 year old child and a Father who made a mistake and lost his Daughter because of it so immediately the attitude changes.

[S&S]

RE: ok ,,,so you are obviously a fuckin pig---- let me tell you" if the above happened to me , i wont call you lot,, you are to busy, " i can recall plenty of cases in the not to distant past" where people have had shit stolen from their property etc etc, only for the cops to turn up several weeks later, and or assaults, with no police response " dont you read the news !!!! and YEAH yeah , we only hear the xtreme bad cases,on the news we dont hear the good things,, why is it then , i drive/ride through the top of symonds street only to find six pigs writing tickets, WOW thats fightin crime!!!!!

You have no idea buddy, wake up!

[enigma51]

Im only saying there were a couple of cases. On the whole the cops do a great job and deserve a break. I just think in this case maybe it could have been handled differently.. but then again we dont have all the facts before us. The jury did and made there decision very quickly.

And apparently there is a ride of some sort planned but I dont know what just yet. My bike will be going south very shortly anyway, so its quite Ironic that I get my licence back then send away the bike.

But another will come soon!!

Hear what you saying

Keep us in the loop about the ride if your hear anything

[enigma51]

well common sense did prevail......yep it took the Courts to decide but I guess that is the judical system.....I mean is there much difference between this and some drunk cager who gets in a car and kills someone..............both were irresponsible.....how do you decide on the degree of

I know the Father has suffered enough but then the drunk drive has suffered too..............he made a mistake too.

The problem with these stories is that it involves a 4 year old child and a Father who made a mistake and lost his Daughter because of it so immediately the attitude changes.

Drinking and driving is a bit different for all I care you can fucking die in jail if you drink drive crash and kill someone! (I feel some red rep coming my way! )

[HenryDorsetCase]

FFS I dont agree with the tone of our first poster but the point should be made somewhere that the guy was bloody irresponsible and fucking stupid, and sure he probably feels bad, but the point of the criminal law is to make people account for their actions. Yes he should have been charged, I knew he would walk as soon as it came up mans laughter though..

A lesser charge ("being a mong and causing the death of a loved one") would have stuck I reckon, and rightly so. or criminal nuisance or reckless endangerment or SOMETHING.

I just could give less of a crap about the defence, which amounted to producing a bunch of other people who said "We're dumb fucks too".

Maybe some overzealous non local Detective Senior Sarge looking to make Inspector? we'll never know.

[Freakshow]

I guess they were wanting to make a point that these tools can be dangerous, but we all know there were alternatives to putting this point across. I mean seriously there are ads out there where people tell their story of how an accident has changed their life. I believe if this guy was asked he would appear on TV to tell his story to the country with the hope of saving another life. there are better ways to deal with it than charge me with manslaughter. Congrats to those who stood by him.