For COPS only

[mungus]

Grahameeboy is right on the money.

The law sits there to be enforced when the Police feel so inclined. It has always been that way - the old laws on prostitution and homosexuality were good examples of laws that were often considered inappropriate and hence rarely invoked.

IMHO there are two type of police officers - Policemen / women and PIGS! The OC of that case I would venture is the 2nd variety. I have seen other examples where the Taranaki Police have pushed the boundaries of fairness and natural justice to try and increase their score of indictable convictions.

They should be ashamed of themselves. If they wonder why the Police are held in such low regard by the NZ public and why they have recruitment probs - look no futher. When I read stories like that one with the poor Dad and his kid on the 4 wheeler it makes me feel like I'd never feel any pity nor want to help a PIG in trouble, in fact I'd rather watch one burn alive. F**king ar**holes!

[Grahameeboy]

Grahameeboy I understand where you are coming from but man I am glad your not a cop because you would be one who shows no discretion, but likes to make examples of everyone despite the circumstances.

How very wrong you are.....but no red reps for you because ya don't really know me and I guess the simple answer is that I would not want to be a cop because I am actually a big softie, I would be sacked for not reaching my tally and would not like to be put in the position you describe.......if I had ben the cop in hat situation I would have suggested a simpler charge or some other alternatives, and all I was doing was arguing the reasons behind the prosecution like others.......

Having a disabled Daughter, I have no reason or want to make examples of others despite the circumstances.

Your Ticket is in the post.......he he

[SwanTiger]

You know, if the police hired more good looking females as front line officers there wouldn't be as much hate felt towards them.

When you think about it, how many guys are going to get pissed when a nice looking busty cop with a low cut top on hands them a ticket for speeding.

[enigma51]

Last from me on this subject.

People rap your children in cotton wool and dont take your eyes of them cause if you do hell will hunt you down!

[Grahameeboy]

[QUOTE=Dynamytus50]

That was sea breeze aye? that was very sad we had to inform the father as he died at auckland hospital, i hate that.

Yep, very sad and I guess avoidable.....

[mungus]

It seems NZ is getting out of control. The Police now seem to want to prosecute any unfortunate person for any accident of any kind. What ever happenned to going after criminals? (ie murderers, rapists, thieves etc). How crazy is this place becoming - like the previous poster said. If anything happens to anyone you care about or even to a complete stranger on your property and the PIGs will try to fit you up for something.

PS - Don't try the cop out of "they are only enforcing the law which the government made". Bollocks sunshine, how do you think those laws came about, by lobbying from the Police...

Something is rotten in the NZ Police, most of them look like thugs and behave like legalised bully boys. Scarcely a week goes by without another bent PIG in court, I wouldn't trust em with 5 cents.

[Lou Girardin]

Justice was done and surely that is the main thing.

Justice?
Plying costs and worry onto a family that's grieving the death of a daughter?
Tormenting a good man who knows what he did and will have to live with it for life?
I'm sorry, I don't see any justice in this at all.
Saying processes were followed is more honest.

[Lou Girardin]

I disagree, i think the judge remained neutral and he didnt critisize the Police as Judges have in the past when they think the Crown (police) have laid an inappropriate charge.

I didn't say he did. His comments indicated that he though Mr Vanners actions were no worse than what happens every day on farms.

[Hitcher]

Now youve read this go and write a ticket you fuckin losers

I hope that on the day you really need the Cops to do something for you, they're nowhere to be found. Get over yourself.

The Police had no option in this case but to prosecute. Arguably justice was done, but I disagree with the outcome on many levels, as noted in the other thread.

[Grahameeboy]

Justice?
Plying costs and worry onto a family that's grieving the death of a daughter?
Tormenting a good man who knows what he did and will have to live with it for life?
I'm sorry, I don't see any justice in this at all.
Saying processes were followed is more honest.

So if nothing was done would that be justice?

Like I said earlier, if that happened to me with my Daughter, I would expect to be subject to the system......nothing, even going to Court, would make my torment worse.

This was never going to jail time and I am sure his Lawyers told him that.

Being honest is not hiding behind a PC 'We were jusy following the process" because next time someone says this about something you will be the first to rant about it.....

[scumdog]

It seems NZ is getting out of control. The Police now seem to want to prosecute any unfortunate person for any accident of any kind. What ever happenned to going after criminals? (ie murderers, rapists, thieves etc). How crazy is this place becoming - like the previous poster said. If anything happens to anyone you care about or even to a complete stranger on your property and the PIGs will try to fit you up for something.

PS - Don't try the cop out of "they are only enforcing the law which the government made". Bollocks sunshine, how do you think those laws came about, by lobbying from the Police...

Something is rotten in the NZ Police, most of them look like thugs and behave like legalised bully boys. Scarcely a week goes by without another bent PIG in court, I wouldn't trust em with 5 cents.

Funny how Police are only a reflection of society.... I wonder WHAT kind of society they reflect?.

Police are too busy prosecuting innocent fathers of quad-riders, ticketing innocent speeding riders/motorists etc to deal with 'real' criminals...

[terbang]

Rare I stick up for Rozzers but I'll do it this time. Gixxer you are shooting the messengers.

[Paul in NZ]

Rare I stick up for Rozzers but I'll do it this time. Gixxer you are shooting the messengers.

Amen brother

[jaybee180]

Gixxer you are a narrow minded git, and Lou you are so bitter and twisted your posts don't even warrant reading these days.

Don't you think the Police knew he would get off!!! Have a think about it!!!! And if at the end of the day this case SAVES one small soul from leaving this world due to the irresponsible actions of another then it will be all worth it!

Let's all pray that those out there take note and this is the end result!

Spare a thought for ALL of those involved. Do you really think the Police take any pleasure in picking up small bodies (or any bodies come to think of it) under any circumstances.

By the way I'll let the cop know who went out to scrap the body of a small child off the road this afternoon not to prosecute the driver (although he doesn't always have the final say anyway - not that "you who know it all" would even consider that fact) coz she's probably sorry it happened and didn't really mean to do it. Now I'm sure THAT will be a great comfort to the child's family!

We have ONE law for everyone - the jury decides - as they rightly did in this case.

[onearmedbandit]

now would the kid have done the same thing if his Dad had not allowed him to ride up and down the road illegally......probably not.

Kids are impressionable.

Probably yes. I know, I did this sort of thing when I was yound, despite knowing it was illegal and that my father would not approve. As did many of my friends, as did many here no doubt.