For COPS only

[WINJA]

Because a 4 year old died needlessly through the carelessness of an adult.

AND YOU DONT THINK THE MAN WAS PUNISHED ENOUGH , HES GONNA PAY FOR THAT MISTAKE THE REST OF HIS LIFE , PUNISHING HIM WILL DO NOTHING HE'LL NEVER DO IT AGAIN BUT A CONVICTION WOULD STILL BE NO DETERENT FOR OTHERS .
HAVE YOU GOT A BIKE YET SPUD OR ARE YOU STILL A BIKELESS LOSER BLURTING OUT SHIT

[spudchucka]

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[onearmedbandit]

Know all the facts? Come on, really? This is Kiwibiker, what the fuck has facts got to do with anything on here?

Mate it isn't just Kiwbiker, this is everywhere. Everyone who knows about it has opinion on based on what they've read/heard or maybe drawn from their own experiences. It certainly isn't isolated to KB.

My 2 cents? I have my own emotive responses along with feelings that this should have been avoided and responsibilty is due but as I wasn't there and I don't know all the facts I'm not going to draw any conclusions other than this is a dreadfully saddening event.

[Psalm42]

A child died due to the carelessness of an adult. Pehaps only a parent who has experienced that kind of loss can comprehend how many times that childs father will die on the inside every day for the rest of his life.

Did the police serve there community or the state in proceeding with the prosecution.

Through the direct intention of an adult (doctors) unborn children die needlessly on a daily basis. The doctors don’t get prosecuted.

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible to live without breaking laws."
(Ayn Rand "Atlas Shrugged")

"The policeman - there is no question of the military system - acts as the representative of the ordinary citizen...it is important to bear in mind that the constable, even in the execution of his duty for the preservation of peace acts not as the agent of the Government exercising powers derived from them, but as a citizen representing the rest of the community."
(Sir Henry Craik)

[T.I.E]

The day some mental case bursts into your home & starts to butt-fuck you & shoot ya family, I wonder who you will be screaming for on the phone to come & help.... ? Would like to see you make a sacrifice & quite your day time job to become a cop & make the world a better place. Dick head !

why ring the cops they would take forever to turn up. and id take care of the mental idiot myself.

[T.I.E]

exactly my point!!!!! i know there are a "lot of good cops out there" but they seem to be far and few between--

your statement bothers me. you say there are alot of good cops out there, but few and far between, so does that means there aren't many?

[ajturbo]

The day some mental case bursts into your home & starts to butt-fuck you & shoot ya family, I wonder who you will be screaming for on the phone to come & help.... ? Would like to see you make a sacrifice & quite your day time job to become a cop & make the world a better place. Dick head !

wow now that is a reply i can laugh at ..hahahaha

[T.I.E]

you know how hard it is to bite ya tongue sometimes on this site? some have good and bad points, others just talking through a hole out the wrong end.

don't know how half of you all do it.

[ajturbo]

Know all the facts? Come on, really? This is Kiwibiker, what the fuck has facts got to do with anything on here?

Facts???

[Shadows]

I think the starter of this thread was a bit out of line. I'd say it would have been a terrible thing for all involved. Especially Dad. Not a good choice, he'll have to live with that. I feel for the guy. Dude I'm sure the cops would have been pretty cut up as well. They would have had no choice but to lay charges. From there it's down to a judge, these people are trained to see reason and would have known the poor guy has paid enough already. Get over it man, its just the way the wheels turn.

[DEATH_INC.]

a 400cc King Quad is not a tool and it is not something a four year old should be riding on their own, it is nothing like a spade a hammer or even a horse. That is a large farm bike built for torque to get up hills and carry tools.

I have ridden one and they are very powerful machines.

Big difference between a pushbike and a King Quad!!

No, it is just a tool.It may be big and powerful but it's still a tool. I've been using scrubcutters, chainsaws and driving tractors nearly as long as I can remember, as have most of the other people I know who grew up on farms.....
I wasn't comparing a quad to a pushie,just making the point that anything can be dangerous in the wrong situation....should we ban kids from everything?

[oldrider]

I saw an early TV report on this case and my initial reaction was what are the cops thinking of!

Then the camera panned across the quad slowly.

What a heap of junk in worse than rough condition, it looked "bad". I reserved my judgment from there on.

Graemeboy, if you let your daughter ride around on her electric scooter knowing that it had no brakes or the controls were faulty and that the scooter was dangerous and she was injured I wouldn't yo expect you to be prosecuted too?

I don't know if that had a bearing on the case or not but I wouldn't be surprised.

I don't think age is so much a factor in using machinery such as motorbikes. I think competence and skill capability is more important than age.

I know lots of older people who I wouldn't let control anything mechanical but I know lots of very young kids I would "almost" trust my life with.

All my grand-kids have their own motorcycles and they ride them well but never on their own and unsupervised.

Their fathers keep the bikes in absolute top notch condition at all times or the kids don't get to ride them.

As for the Police like them or not, try doing with out them for a while, things would soon deteriorate and get worse the longer we didn't have them.

On TV news tonight there was an article about a Catholic brother being tried for kiddie fiddling with the handicapped kids at his school.

If it wasn't for the Police that bastard would still be out there doing his evil do without constraint or any fear of ever being stopped.

I have a special word of thanks for the Police on this one.

Why?

Because one of the victims of this dirty bastard was my son. Police! Thank you for the "good" things that get done. John.

[Paul in NZ]

Thanks John... Not often I'm impressed here these days! Kudos to you brother..

And at this point...

Out of respect to a pretty amazingly brave and admirable post.... Can we please let this stop now and no more posts here eh!

[spudchucka]

yes but a tool for a four year old?? what are you, nuts??

of course we shouldnt ban kids from everything but from driving 400cc king quad motorbikes that weight near on 400kg when they weigh 18kg, of course we should ban them from that its absolutley ridiculous!

Plenty of adults have problems keeping these things upright, it is totaly foreseeable that a four year old is incapable of having proper control of a vehicle of this type.

[SixPackBack]

Plenty of adults have problems keeping these things upright, it is totaly foreseeable that a four year old is incapable of having proper control of a vehicle of this type.

Bet she had more control than JSG