For COPS only

**spudchucka** · 22nd March 2006, 08:53

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

they all overspent on election spending

Compared to the life of a 4 year old girl, who f**ken cares!

**spudchucka** · 22nd March 2006, 08:54

Originally Posted by sAsLEX

Farm kids will always die on the farm, its a fact of life, just now days instead of being thrown from Betsy the clydesdale its a Suzuki or Honda et al that did the business.

So we should do nothing to encourage farmers to take more care with their kids lives on their farms?

Why not just chuck them down the offal hole at birth and be done with it?

**spudchucka** · 22nd March 2006, 08:56

Originally Posted by MisterD

The suffering he has inflicted on himself should only come into play when the judge decides on the sentence, and in this case I think he would and should have been freed (don't know what the legal term is for this..).

Absolutely right!

**spudchucka** · 22nd March 2006, 08:58

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

I'd be far more agreeable to this if the State carried the defendants costs when aquitted.

Question for ya.

If Rickards, Shipton & Schollum are acquited would you as a tax payer be happy for the state to pick up their legal bill?

**Psalm42** · 22nd March 2006, 10:31

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Question for ya.

If Rickards, Shipton & Schollum are acquited would you as a tax payer be happy for the state to pick up their legal bill?

We are already paying for Shipton and Schollums accomodation now. They can apply for cost at the end of there current case.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Rickards is on full pay while he's been waiting for this case. We pay for that too.

So what the fuck, yeah lets just pick up there legal bills, and laundry, and transport to and from .... where is it Shipton and Schollum live again????

**spudchucka** · 22nd March 2006, 10:48

Originally Posted by Psalm42

We are already paying for Shipton and Schollums accomodation now. They can apply for cost at the end of there current case.

And I wouldn't be surprised if Rickards is on full pay while he's been waiting for this case. We pay for that too.

So what the fuck, yeah lets just pick up there legal bills, and laundry, and transport to and from .... where is it Shipton and Schollum live again????

I wasn't asking you, your reply is completely out of context.

**Patrick** · 22nd March 2006, 12:13

Started to read but what a book...only read a few pages...

Hows this for a perspective... I am related (distantly) to the dad and therefore the kiddie, I am a cop, I have spoken to the O/C case. Getting both sides one could say...

The charge wasn't the cops call, legal section (those with law degrees, some are cops, some are not...) decided on the charge.

- Stupid/careless/reckless act results in death of child = manslaughter.
- Tragic, extremely sad, distressing for all involved, including the cops = Yep!
- Who wanted a grieving dad to be convicted = no one really...
- Who wanted everyone to be aware of the need for more care on farms with farm kiddies on monster bikes = everyone, especially the cops who have to pick up the pieces, (quite literally, in some cases....)
- Charge him with something or charge him with nothing... Damned if you do(like in this forum by some) or damned if you don't (imagine the newspapers getting off on that one too...).
- Those who learned from the farmers mistake with his daughter? Time will tell, but my money is on more kids dying on farms.... but some here think that is OK coz it will be the upset farmers kid anyhow. (Huh???????)
- Blame the cop? Yep.... again..........but only by a few one eyed anti social cop hating moaners, from what i saw from the few pages.
- Rants, like this opener, from those who don't really know shit from clay and react to emotive crap? = All too often, sadly.......

Lessons learned by the people out there on all sides? Maybe by some... maybe not....sadly...

My 0.02c .....

**SixPackBack** · 22nd March 2006, 12:14

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Question for ya.

If Rickards, Shipton & Schollum are acquited would you as a tax payer be happy for the state to pick up their legal bill?

But Spud they are coppers and beyond questioning..how could they possibly be guilty.

**Grahameeboy** · 22nd March 2006, 12:16

Originally Posted by Patrick

Started to read but what a book...only read a few pages...

Hows this for a perspective... I am related (distantly) to the dad and therefore the kiddie, I am a cop, I have spoken to the O/C case.

The charge wasn't the cops call, legal section (those with law degrees, some are cops, some are not...) decided on the charge.

- Stupid/careless/reckless act results in death of child = manslaughter.
- Tragic, extremely sad, distressing for all involved, including the cops = Yep!
- Who wanted a grieving dad to be convicted = no one really...
- Who wanted everyone to be aware of the need for more care on farms with farm kiddies on monster bikes = everyone, especially the cops who have to pick up the pieces, (quite literally, in some cases....)
- Charge him with something or charge him with nothing... Damned if you do(like in this forum by some) or damned if you don't (imagine the newspapers getting off on that one too...).
- Those who learned from the farmers mistake with his daughter? Time will tell, but my money is on more kids dying on farms.... but some here think that is OK coz it will be the upset farmers kid anyhow. (Huh???????)
- Blame the cop? Yep.... again..........but only by a few one eyed anti social cop hating moaners, from what i saw from the few pages.
- Rants, like this opener, from those who don't really know shit from clay and react to emotive crap? = All too often, sadly.......

Lessons learned by the people out there on all sides? Maybe by some... maybe not....sadly...

My 0.02c .....

Summed up nicely mate.................

**spudchucka** · 22nd March 2006, 12:29

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

But Spud they are coppers and beyond questioning..how could they possibly be guilty.

Thats one of the most pathetic trolls I've ever read on here, and god knows there's been more than just a few before now.

**SixPackBack** · 22nd March 2006, 12:37

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Thats one of the most pathetic trolls I've ever read on here, and god knows there's been more than just a few before now.

Seems to be indicative of the double standards applied and a good example is the following:
A friend I grew up with and I traveled around the north island in the 80's. He helped me smoke no less than 50 grams of pot whilst traveling, upon returning home he joined the force and was posted in the far north....spent plenty of time busting the poor locals for smoking grass from what I hear.
Get of your pedestal copper

**spudchucka** · 22nd March 2006, 12:55

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

Seems to be indicative of the double standards applied and a good example is the following:
A friend I grew up with and I traveled around the north island in the 80's. He helped me smoke no less than 50 grams of pot whilst traveling, upon returning home he joined the force and was posted in the far north....spent plenty of time busting the poor locals for smoking grass from what I hear.
Get of your pedestal copper

You presume to know something about my past? Or are you just judging me based on your mates standards?

Everyone has a past, some are simply more colourful than others and some come back to haunt their owners, as is the case with these three people.

**Lou Girardin** · 22nd March 2006, 13:06

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Question for ya.

If Rickards, Shipton & Schollum are acquited would you as a tax payer be happy for the state to pick up their legal bill?

With a great deal of sourness. Not because they're cops, because they are low-life scum.

**spudchucka** · 22nd March 2006, 13:22

Originally Posted by Lou Girardin

With a great deal of sourness. Not because they're cops, because they are low-life scum.

Fair enough. Personally I'd rather gargle tacks.

Another question for you;

Hypothetically, if they were facing 10 charges, are convicted of 2 and acquited of the other 8, should the state pick up 80% of their legal bill?