Spherion IT Courses.

[Sniper]

Why the hell did you resurrect a year old thread???????

[fritter]

In that amount of time most courses should have changed by now lol

[John]

Qualifications are fairly neccessary nowadays in IT

Sadly a qualfication without experience means diddly shit - makes sense, go do a course denied from all jobs because of no work experience end up working in a supermarket go figure :slap:.

[John]

Why the hell did you resurrect a year old thread???????

god damn it :@

Here I am thinking that it was a recent one FUCK!

[fritter]

Sadly a qualfication without experience means diddly shit - makes sense, go do a course denied from all jobs because of no work experience end up working in a supermarket go figure :slap:.

mmmm. yeah. shouldn't even try huh?

maybe it would be best to just go to a company asking for a technical job - however entry level it may be - and tell them we don't have any experience OR any qualifications. that'll make it easier for the employer to filter cv's out anyway.

then again, at the rate things are going, people won't even be able to get a supermarket job without a phd in commerce and 10 years customer service experience


since this is such an old thread anyway - do we have an update? any joy finding work yet?

[MOTOXXX]

im currently at the wellington one. its not called spherion anymore its called compuer power
they are a good way to get into i.t as far as i have seen.

in some of the courses 100 hours training at a company and sometims you get a job at the end of it. my placement lady has more job offers than students ready to graduate.

but experience is a huge part of it.

im doing the systems tech diploma and am on work exp. im helping fix dell laptops, builds on servers etc etc. all good learning.
spose u gota start some place eh
ps can i have a job anyone lol

[fritter]

when I started there first it was CPTI - computer power training institute, then they changed to 'interim', then to spherion, then back to computer power lol.

at the time the tutors were shite and the course content wasn't that good either - incorrect content in the manuals etc, but it covered plenty of areas, which is what matters to employers - it shows you can learn, which is what counts ultimately. the careers placement thing was shit.

I got a job by myself and left about 3/4's of the way through the course - I went in during my lunchbreaks to sit the exams so I could get the cert. I had plenty of experience at home building pc's and programming etc, I'd even had a job part time as a computer operator, but none of that meant anything towards a full time job without that stoopid piece of paper, and a part time operator job is hardly considered to be experience. I learnt more by messing around at home than I ever did on any course (apart from voip - that was harder to play with at home lol).

And before any replies saying that it won't get you into a highly technical job, it won't. No one I knew who signed up at the time expected that straight away. But it gives you a better chance at getting a foot in the door, which is all you need. Then you can get industry certs like msce, ccnp etc, which WILL get you a decent job with decent pay. The only bitch is that you have to keep studying in order to keep up with technology. You don't necessarily need to keep the industry certs current though, as long as you know enough about the field you work in.

good luck motoxxx. keep us posted on how it goes anyway. we've just filled a helpdesk job, but they come up every now and then. sounds like the work experience you are doing will prolly lead to a job at the same place

[MOTOXXX]

yea getting a realy good job strait out of anything like this is a bit rare.
ill keep you posted to how im going.

ill be finished my course in about 2 months and then i have to do a+ cert and looking to do maybe network + and poss mcsa but ill see how i go

[fritter]

I wouldn't bother with network+ AND a+. One of them should do - they are both very entry level certs (I don't know of many people who have either, let alone both of them). Let your job decide which one. You might find the place that hires you will pay for you to do a+ or something to start with anyway... be good to hear how you go though.

[Ghost Lemur]

I wouldn't bother with network+ AND a+. One of them should do - they are both very entry level certs (I don't know of many people who have either, let alone both of them). Let your job decide which one. You might find the place that hires you will pay for you to do a+ or something to start with anyway... be good to hear how you go though.

Personally I'd forget about them completely. at least when I did them they said themselves that the qualifications only equal 6 months experience. Total waste of time. The CISCO quals on the other hand are a little more valueable.

Still trying to get my foot in the industry (programming, software engineering, etc). Getting a bit annoyed at the constant talk about shortages, yet it still looks like none of them are willing to take on the entry levels. Constidered getting a degree part-time, but will only do it once I've got the foot in and know it's going to be worth while.

Went to the Spherion down here in Christchurch. Had no problems with them. It's still about who you know and not what, when it comes to getting an actual job.

[fritter]

Personally I'd forget about them completely. at least when I did them they said themselves that the qualifications only equal 6 months experience. Total waste of time. The CISCO quals on the other hand are a little more valueable.

I never did A+ or Network+ either. Seemed like a waste of time to me, but a few places do seem to like them now. At least it doesn't require much time or effort to get them I suppose..

The cisco quals are to the network world what the microsoft quals are to the systems world. The MSCE lost a lot of credit years ago, but the exams are a bit harder now (nowhere near as hard as a CCIE of course, but there isn't really an MS equivalent that I am aware of), so they seem to hold a bit more sway than they used to.

Constidered getting a degree part-time, but will only do it once I've got the foot in and know it's going to be worth while.

Really? Certainly never seemed worth it to me. At least not a degree relating to anything technical. Something like law,commerce etc might be helpful to move to management though...

It's still about who you know and not what, when it comes to getting an actual job.

pretty much - lol

[Big Dog]

This thread is so old I have now done A+ network + and am happily employed at a major IT firm.
Only helpdesk at the moment but it is a start and an eduction. Trying to sort out some company funded MCSA / MCSE.


Don't quite know how so many negative people end up in the idustry.
Yes the politics suck but the work is good honest and fun.

[fritter]

Glad to hear it all worked out well for you BD

Good luck getting them to pay for your mcse. If you appear keen enough most decent size places will help out

[Big Dog]

Glad to hear it all worked out well for you BD

Good luck getting them to pay for your mcse. If you appear keen enough most decent size places will help out

They paid, I start MCSA in november.
Maybe next year for mcse apparently.
looking forward to a decent mental instead of telling forty people a day to restart their computer.....

[MOTOXXX]

Update for MOTOXXX

well ive just finished my diploma in systems technology and am almost finished my a+ os exam. The tutors and staff have been awsome here and have helped me a lot.
the placement program they have here is awsome and for those people that think that it is a waste of time...

Since december i have had about 6 or 7 job interview and 4 job offers

i have had two job offers today, one from a network eng place and one from a top government security org. both paying 40k starting.

im absolutly stoked and start my new job on first of Feb.

Thanks to jim2 for forwarding my cv around his work. even though i didnt get a job there ur a champ dude.



its goint to be great having money again. wooootttt