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    Rumbles

    Reading the Mods N Rockers thread and some others - I was wondering if you had been in any ''rumbles'' as the Poms say...or have you all led sheltered lives,but k'now,we are bikers to the bone surely? Here are a couple from me to start with,there are more,but it will give you an idea of what was happening in the early 70s and my fighting style.

    My brother had a big party at the flat he was living in - a flat in those days was a kauri villa in an inner city suburb with lots of young people living in it - always more than the number of rooms.This was a huge do,the cars were lined up both sides of the street,inside the house there was no room to move,just people everywhere,real music blasting out of the big stereo speakers....wow,choice.

    Then we were gate crashed by the King Cobras They started by running up and down the cars parked outside - jumping from bonnet to boot,over the roof,landing on the bonnet and so on,on all the cars on both sides of the road.In those days bike boots had leather soles with steel heel and toe plates,so it was quite noisy.When they came on the property they knocked down the small block wall outside,all in one piece at ground level.I was standing in the hall by the front door when they came in - the first guy had a baseball bat and his first swing took out the hall light,the second landing beside me and smashing the phone.Well,that kinda set the tone and in a matter of minutes most of the happy party goers had decided to leave.

    We weren't going to leave my brother and his friends to this fate so we all stayed and so did a few others,there was still a party going on,piss needed drinking.I nearly threw him to the lions though - I was standing in the kitchen and he came up to me and said ''great party eh'' and punched me in the arm,I was none too steady on my feet either and stumbled,spilling some of my drink on the biker chick next to me...she turned to the leader of the group and said...''Max,this little shit just poured his drink all over me'' Ah,tiz lucky the boy is Oyrish and one of his ancestors must a kissed the Blarney Stone now isn't it? or maybe it was the tears as I knelt pleading at his feet.I don't know what happened,but I know there is an eternety between heart beats.

    Later we all piled into my International pick up and went back to our own suburb to get reinforcments - came back and rattled some spears,then all went our separete ways.


    Maybe a year later we were up at Whangaparoa,still with my International AS110 when we came across a party with fighting in the street - they were being gate crashed,so the guys I was with wanted to be in on it too.I was in the pick up tray and jumped out to see we were parked in front of a red 57 Chev,nice car - so I opened my bottle of beer on that big headlamp suround,it was perfect for the job.Didn't sound like the guys inside thought it was the sort of thing I shoulda done,they were yelling and sceaming as I walked into the middle of the fight.

    This wasn't my normal crowd and one of them who was a little guy like me wanted to wear my jacket and kept pestering me about it.It was not the sort of thing these guys wore,it was a DJ,a denim jacket with the sleeves ripped out - so I walked up to him and said ''hey,wanna wear my jacket?'' so he took it and put it on,big smile on his face.He also had frizzy hair,so I took off my toweling hat and went into the house.

    The house was deserted,they were all out fighting in the street,so I found a nice bottle of something and wandered out the back,thinking I needed a crap in the outhouse seeing as it was so quiet.Sitting in the longdrop sampling apricot liquere,listening to the noise as I pissed hard against the front board.Trouble is I found out there was no front board - I had just pissed all over my jeans

    Back at the house we were all heros,my boys had cleaned up the gatecrashers and now we were guests.On the way back to where we were camped I had a bit of trouble,coming up to a corner the brakes failed in the old truck,the pedal just went to the floor - I pumped a few times with no luck,so went off the road and into a park,spinning around a bit then back on the road.The brakes were ok now,it looks like I was using the clutch instead - easy mistake eh? I was sleeping in my truck,my mate in my other car,an old VW,when about 3.00am I hear shouting outside - the guy who had my DJ was looking for me,seems he had a little bit of trouble back at the party and he reckons it's my fault.My mate who loved a fight says we need a sleep - but we were going to meet them all at 8.00 at the footy field,he said the two of us were going to take the whole fuckin lot of them on.

    We were out of there at 6.00.

    I guess I am lucky in that anyone involved in these fun and games is either dead,in OZ or is a lawyer or property developer - I will never see them - I hope!
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    someone say rumbles? lol.
    been in a few rolling brawls, man they are utterly ridiculous. one particularly funny evening in Porirua we were leaving my mates cousins & my mate's brother runs up to the taxi van with a keg. we laughed until we seen the house across the road empty out with big islander boys(he had stolen the keg from their party!!!), man the taxi driver nearly wet himself lol. we ,lost that one & the boys got their keg back but we laughed all the way to the next party 8-).

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    Oh dear,Rumbles,scraps,boxin' on,Call it what you will it was damn near a life style at one time.There are still guys out there I keep a casual eye out for when I go on an organised ride.I have run into a couple of these guys and mostly we have a good laugh but ya' never know aye.
    I'll tell ya' about one I won and one I lost.During the seventys there were a group calling themselfs the Northcoate boys.My family came from Beachhaven and we didn't get on with these guys at all.
    My youngest brother Vaughn worked at Uncles takeaways in Highbury.
    Vaughn wasn't really involed in the bad blood between us and them but being
    my brother was enough to make him a target.Late one friday Vaughn was doing a late shift and one of my other brothers Shane and myself were waiting
    up the road from Uncles to pick him up after work.As we sat in my PAX Vauxhall three bikes all two up pulled up outside Uncles and before we knew at they had Vaughn over the counter and were giving him a right kicking.Shane and I both had lumps of 4x2 and we hit these pricks from behind, three of them were on the deck doing some serious bleeding before they realised what hit them.Two of them did a runner and one jumped on his bike.That didn't work as we draged him off and gave him a taste of what he had been giving Vaughn.His two mates stood on the other side of the road an watched he him cop it.That little incident made the local rag as being a gang battle involving about twenty guys.
    After that we got word these guys were going to sort us out big time.We weren't to worryed because at the time it was just par for the course anyway.They never got Shane or Vaughn but I was coming home from work one evening and drove past half a dozen of them outside the house they lived in.Well I always was a smart ass so I gave them the finger as I went past.Bad move,Next thing I know there's two car loads of em' on my tail.
    They managed to force me off the road in Birkdale before I could get home.
    Still very much in smart ass mode I got out of my car with me trusty lump of wood.That lasted about two seconds and I went down in the classic screaming heap.Luckly for me a few of the locals broke up the stomping I was geting.I still copped the biggest flogging of my life though.After that the local cops started coming down on us hard .I went an found another town to live in and my brothers moved to OZ for a few years.I think we all worked it out that four shitheads weren't going to win out against twenty odd shit heads.I did run into one of those guys a few years back,He's now a Hells Angel and I did a paint job for him before we both realised where we knew each other from.We had a bit of a laugh about the old days an left it at that.

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    I payed heed to my father's advice when I was younger: "If you can't run and you can't fight, you'd better be friendly or funny!" So far I have successfully avoided violent confrontations...
    "Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]

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    It's good to be able to laugh about that sort of carry on now and I had a few hidings when I was a bit younger and THOUGHT I was a bit tougher. Me and my boys used to get in some pretty big skirmishes with other local groups.

    Trouble is nowdays, most of these dickheads are carrying knifes and christ knows what else and aren't afraid to use them!

    My brother (Fizzer man) was fucken near killed by a group of about 10 skinheads in Dunedin outside a pub. He was by himself and one of these hero, nazi fucks girlfriends decided for a laugh to point him out as a "Nark".

    Modern mob mentality is a bloody dangerous thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher
    I payed heed to my father's advice when I was younger: "If you can't run and you can't fight, you'd better be friendly or funny!" So far I have successfully avoided violent confrontations...
    Similar to my old man. He said "I've won every fight I've ever been in.........by at least 100m."

    Wise idea!
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    Yeah, growing up in the Hutt Valley in the 70s - 80s was an interesting time.

    I had the good luck (or whatever) to be a teenager when the punk scene hit really hard in NZ. Of course, at the same time you had all the local maori kids got into breakdancing and then reggae music, while conveniently avoiding all the spirituality of Jah Ras Tafari.

    So this caused a few confrontations. Sometimes they won, sometimes we won. To tell the truth most of the time they kicked our asses. Usually 'cause we walked around alone and stuff, and they tended to congregate in herds of at least four which made the odds better for them.

    Moving on to the late eighties and grunge, I was well and truly ensconced in the NZ rock scene playing lead guitar in hard rock/metal bands.

    Worst incident I guess would have to have been when our band (TAB) was playing a double bill with Flesh D-Vice at a small venue in Vivian Street, Wellington.

    Local skinhead crowd the Droogs (yeah original name, eh - but they weren't too bright) had some kind of vendatta going with the Nomads (maori gang from Levin, IIRC - ofshoot from Black Power?) and there were a few droogs at our gig. Well, the Nomads turn up in full force, about 30 of them with knives, bats, etc. and proceed to take these droogs apart in the middle of our set.

    Lots of blood, lots of screams, flying fists and boots. One guy got his face cut open in front of me. Not nice. Then the guy who did it tries to get on the stage dragging the droog. He's about five foot-ten but to me he looks about 7 foot tall and scary as.

    So I'm shit scared and not thinking, swing my guitar around and collect him straight in the forehead with it. He drops and luckily none of his mates notice - they're too busy trying to clean up (!) these skinheads. We get the gear together and get the fuck out of there.

    And that's my one and only brawl experience...

    it was kind of like that scene in from dusk to dawn where all the bikers start turning into vampires
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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    One incident whan I was about 18. Me and a bunch of mates had been to the local pub. Getting onto our bikes at closing, a bunch of Maori guys run up to us calling us "Sinn Fein Bastards" and announcing themselves as the "Mighty Mongrel Mob". Well there was a bit of a to-do but we were outnumbered so we let them win by a considerable margin. No doubt they went away happy that they'd taken down the Feiners.
    They must have been pretty pissed (I know we were) not to notice we were all on jap trail bikes - something no self respecting S/F would even acknowlege, let alone ride.
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Just the thought of some of those old buggers on trail bikes is enough to have me pissing my pants

    Don't most of them drive HSV's now?
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

    - James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.

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    Been involved in a couple of all in's, otherwise every punchup I've been in was one on one. Too many of those to mention. But all usually involved piss, women or rugby. Both all in's was rugby related. The old story, get a couple of opposing teams in the same bar, and eventually she's all on.
    Still get into trouble every now and then, but you have to pick who you fight these days, bloody knives & weapons come out a lot more these days, cause the gutless wonders don't know how to knuckle up!. In Nelson last year stepped a guy outside in a bar (so called tuff guy of Nelson!), two big mistakes, first, didn't tell any of my mates, second went down an alley, dumb move!, go to shape up, next thing bottled from behind. Knockout out and received a kicking. Came too and the boy's are saying what the f&ck are you doing out here.......off to hospital.
    One of the boy's knocked the nail on the head, made me really listen and think. He said, "Man!, youv'e got a wife and kids now!, you can't do this shit no more!". Bloody eh!.

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    Scary, festus. Sounds like you're living Foreskin's Lament for real...

    All the best with the new improved life
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

    - James Dickey, Cherrylog Road.

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    I hate people that like to pick fights. Nearly got into one with two little Maori's, which one thought it would be cool to get onto my bike.
    Man I was pissed "I'm like WTF? are you doing"
    the little shit's like "ah cunt aw, I was gonna steal aw ay"

    "like you know how to fucking ride it u little shit" I'm thinking to myself, God little dicks like that piss me off, Does anyone know where I can get knuckle Dusters from?

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    Well I'm a lover not a fighter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic_Sea_lily
    Well I'm a lover not a fighter
    Well as I'm in Wellington next week and meeting Celtic Sea lily I will try and find out if she is right!
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    Since I was a little nipper (hell brawls at Wesley, usually organised by dorm prefects, soap in a sock is very effective ) all of my brawling has either been proffessional (bouncing) or amatuer bouncing (at parties when the host wants someone out or someone starts brawling without the hosts's permission). Never had to face a loss. when you out weigh majority of your oponents by at least 50kg they tend to give up as soon as they realise you are not kidding. The rest tend to drop like a sack opf spuds after either a bear hug or a sleeper. I like to talk my way out of it but I don't mind craking a few skulls when neccessary.

    Those of you who have met me will know why most fights break up before I reach them

    It has been 20 years since I hit someone in anger. I think that is why I have never been seriously injured or lost, I fight with my head not my heart.

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