Paedophile awarded $25,000

[sAsLEX]

, along with receiving compensation from acc to the tune of around $80,000 and was persuing another $100,000 from loss of earnings or some other bullshit. The guy was, in no uncertain terms, a murderer yet received compensation from our tax dollars. Fucked up system.

And ACC people get the flashest gear under care such as wheelchairs where people born handicapped/disabled/spastic or whatever pc term is appropriate these days get old shitty stuff. I dissagree with this for drunks, but as I have paid ACC for years now its nice to know that it does count for somethingif the worse happens

[Grahameeboy]

I agree that he compensation is just ridiculous. He should just have been moved.

However, PDF or Murderer, they all serve their time and when they get out they deserve some privacy....yeah I know they violated kids, however, we cannot just slot criminals in the box that best suits us and say. well he is okay but this one is not.........preventing a PDF from having some privacy....which surely is what we want with these guys anyway i.e. keep them alone......could prevent 'rehabilitation'.

[sAsLEX]

However, PDF or Murderer, they all serve their time and when they get out they deserve some privacy....yeah I know they violated kids, however, we cannot just slot criminals in the box that best suits us and say. well he is okay but this one is not.........preventing a PDF from having some privacy....which surely is what we want with these guys anyway i.e. keep them alone......could prevent 'rehabilitation'.

Maybe the cop relised that rehabilitation just dont happen in our judicial system, look at our re-offending rate

[Grahameeboy]

And ACC people get the flashest gear under care such as wheelchairs where people born handicapped/disabled/spastic or whatever pc term is appropriate these days get old shitty stuff. I dissagree with this for drunks, but as I have paid ACC for years now its nice to know that it does count for somethingif the worse happens

Not quite true......I get new stuff for Natalie, it is just a fight to get it and it all comes down to the Budget......Natalie has a $30,000 powered wheelchair, a standing frame $7,000 and a high/low chair $5,000 so $42,000 so far.

I ended up e-mailing Annette King, Health Minister at time to get the ball rolling and got action within a week....

I have the same issue with the drunk driver and ACC thing but we are all human and make mistakes.....they are a victim and it is the system which needs sorting out.

[sAsLEX]

Not quite true......

Just what I heard from a freind, who is now a Quadrapledgic after wrapping his car round a pole driving home from work late at night, from what he has seen during his time in hospital

[Grahameeboy]

Maybe the cop relised that rehabilitation just dont happen in our judicial system, look at our re-offending rate

I agree but these people need help so it is not the offender that we should be hassling but the Govt for failing to do it.

I mean, this guy may have been trying to sort his life out, he gets pinged by a neighbour, has to move and start all over again........then he thinks, what is the point and re-offends.....every one deseves a chance because you have to see through things and beyond....

[Grahameeboy]

Just what I heard from a freind, who is now a Quadrapledgic after wrapping his car round a pole driving home from work late at night, from what he has seen during his time in hospital

Fair enough, not 'aving a pop......ACC victims do get gold treatment but with disabled kids it is just more of an effort.........

[Streetwise]

Well this is something that i find very interesting, My 3 year old daughter and her aunty walked through newtown in wellington a couple of months ago and that sick cunt walked past and looked at her, I was in my car just by chance passing by at that same time. I must say that i have never had such a feeling that i would want to do damage to anyone like i had that day. But a saving grace before i stepped out of my vehicle, A rather large maori fella walked over a smashed a hot pie in this sick pricks face. Im not into people being hurt for no reason but this guy has been found guilty 3-4 times before, I think he should be killed, Ive got four kids and i would draw blood for anyone of them.

[hunt]

I agree but these people need help so it is not the offender that we should be hassling but the Govt for failing to do it.

I mean, this guy may have been trying to sort his life out, he gets pinged by a neighbour, has to move and start all over again........then he thinks, what is the point and re-offends.....every one deseves a chance because you have to see through things and beyond....

yea everyone does get a chance, that fu.ker blew his by molesting kids,
blaming the government is a load of crap, the community needs to know who these people are to protect the kids, youre not going to cure the guy, but you could lesson the chances of him reoffending.

[ManDownUnder]

Aaahhhhhh.... so you are the legal aid lawyer then.... or is it bush lawyer?

edit - I see I'm dragging this off topic. The question isn't about the guy's guilt or otherwise, it's more about where he should live and his rights to privacy

1. Yep, dumb question.
2. Shouldn't they always?
3. Who says he isn't guilty... (old old threads there... lets not go there again)

Mate - you've jumped on it all a bit hard. I'm no lawyer, but I've lived long enough to see and hear about innocent men deprived of too many rights in the name of swift justice.

We sate the thirst for societal revenge with men's freedom - and that's stupid. I don't care if I'm unpopular for saying it... I'd rather know the person being locked up actually IS the bad guy.

But then - I thought that was obvious. No?

As for the responses...
1) ok then - gimme the dumb answer. Suggestions are very welcome. Are you saying paeds should be locked up for life, or be put to death... ? What about those wrongly convicted - or is killing them an acceptable price?

2) No. What if they are wrongly convicted - or would that be an acceptable price?

3) Not me, but I'm not saying he's inncent either.

[Grahameeboy]

yea everyone does get a chance, that fu.ker blew his by molesting kids,
blaming the government is a load of crap, the community needs to know who these people are to protect the kids, youre not going to cure the guy, but you could lesson the chances of him reoffending.

Fair enough....I just try to see beyond.......now that does not mean that I agree with what he did.......and yes if a repeater they shoud be kept away from Society...

I am just saying that the Govt should attend to issues, not the Public.......that guy in other post who smashed a pie in the PDF's face..........just not on in my book.

There was a case in UK a while ago and some guy comes back from holiday and finds his house has been trashed and there is PDF spraypaint all over his house.......turns out that he was a a Pedeatrician..........

[BuFfY]

Why in this case do two wrongs make it right?
Personally I do find this issue disgusting and he shouldn't have been given any money because of his background... but noone has the right to fully expose other peoples past. He may have learnt from his mistake! Believe it or not there are many people who can change their lives around and even try to help other people with their problems....
Has anyone thought about maybe why people like this do this stuff? Or are they just considered disgusting straight away... always men aswell.
At uni we are told about how hard it is to be a male teacher because of all the publicity about this stuff and it is meaning people who would be amazing teachers wont because of the public view of men.
It quite anoys me because many schools now how no touch policies... which is sooo hard when a little child is crying and you're not allowed to hug them!

[hunt]

Fair enough....I just try to see beyond.......now that does not mean that I agree with what he did.......and yes if a repeater they shoud be kept away from Society...

I am just saying that the Govt should attend to issues, not the Public.......that guy in other post who smashed a pie in the PDF's face..........just not on in my book.

There was a case in UK a while ago and some guy comes back from holiday and finds his house has been trashed and there is PDF spraypaint all over his house.......turns out that he was a a Pedeatrician..........

I dont agree with vigilante type behaviour either, that maybe where the problem lys,on one hand trying to prevent reoffending and on the other, more crimes being committed, that type of action would only drive the pdf more "underground"

[Grahameeboy]

Why in this case do two wrongs make it right?
Personally I do find this issue disgusting and he shouldn't have been given any money because of his background... but noone has the right to fully expose other peoples past. He may have learnt from his mistake! Believe it or not there are many people who can change their lives around and even try to help other people with their problems....
Has anyone thought about maybe why people like this do this stuff? Or are they just considered disgusting straight away... always men aswell.
At uni we are told about how hard it is to be a male teacher because of all the publicity about this stuff and it is meaning people who would be amazing teachers wont because of the public view of men.
It quite anoys me because many schools now how no touch policies... which is sooo hard when a little child is crying and you're not allowed to hug them!

Totally agree BuFty.........nice to see someone who sees through things.......

Teachers..I know that is close to you........well I know you are not a male but in this day and age it is a shame........a friend of mine whose Wife left him accused him of molesting his own kids.....it was all crap and he still does not see his kids 7 years later..........

Even at Church on Sunday this PC thing was raised.....

[Streetwise]

Yea its all good to say o no he should have rights, But wait till you walk past the man on the street, You may be very supprised by your feelings and actions, I was.