Do you think the Haka has been overdone?

**Wenier** · 24th March 2006, 15:28

Just what everyone thinks about the Haka and the amount of use it has had in the Commonwealth Games?

Personally I think it has been, fine use it when we get a Gold but not for every medal. And I thought it was rude and ignorant when they did it over the Bag pipes for the Scottish guy when the Scot had got the Gold.

**SimJen** · 24th March 2006, 15:39

I was at a graduation the other day....boring hohum.
Peoples family members kept doing them as they got on stage, causing big delays for the following students. A real pain in the ass.
Only problem is, you'll be classed as a racist if you disagree with its use.....such is the current state of our society.
Im sure it wouldn't meet with much approval if the english born students families got up and did the whole Morris dancing thing, or the Scots did a long Bagpipe solo that everyone had to sit thru time and again.

**Streetwise** · 24th March 2006, 15:39

Yup, Its a weird thing im not moari but still i have pride when it i being done, Its a shame when the haka is overdone.

**Fishy** · 24th March 2006, 15:53

Yep definitely over done!.

**Mental Trousers** · 24th March 2006, 15:55

Bah. Definitely better than hearing Waltzing Mathilda every 5 minutes. Besides, what would you have them do instead, sing the national anthem all the time??

**Smorg** · 24th March 2006, 16:00

The haka is insperational when done in tastefull amounts and at the right times..................but at a fucken graduation?? Thats retarded

**The_Dover** · 24th March 2006, 16:08

I do the Haka everytime I have a shit, or a wank.

**Matt Bleck** · 24th March 2006, 16:26

If it piss's off the convict's then all good I say.

**Coyote** · 24th March 2006, 16:53

It's ridiculous how we have to endure some of this cultural stuff, especially at school. Take your USA hoodies off, get rid of your ghetto attitude and start wearing your grass skirts 24/7 then I might start taking your culture seriously

And if any disagrees with me, you're racist!

**Madness** · 24th March 2006, 17:05

Last year I sadly had to attend a friends funeral & soon afterwards his tangi.
Attenting the Marae in Northland was an experience I'll never forget. I had known my friend for about 18 years before he was killed. A manslaughter conviction has been handed down to his killer. It blew me away to see my friends birthplace and his roots etc. Watching those skinny white-arsed swimmers at the games does seem to reduce the "magic" of the Haka, for me anyways. There should be a licencing requirement for pakeha to do it, hell there is for everything else!!!! Norm Hewitt can be appointed Haka Licencing Commisioner or something???

**Free Rider** · 24th March 2006, 17:10

i think it has been..

**DirtMad** · 24th March 2006, 17:15

Doesnt worry me at the games at the moment. They could do it everytime we came 4th place for all I care. Plenty of other channels...

**Colapop** · 24th March 2006, 17:20

Any Haka if done properly and in context is in good taste. With the multiculturalising of our country more and more non-maori are finding an affinity with the "Ka Mate" haka as a common link to their home. Especially when away from home. The question becomes are you proud to be a NZer? They certainly are.

But to use a haka, which is a challenge, to celebrate every imagined victory (such as 3rd) is to diminsh it's mana as a cultural icon. There'd be few NZers who'd argue that the All Blacks (regardless of sporting support) don't value the haka and aquit themselves as best they're able when performing it.

I'm not Maori nor do I have any Maori 'blood' in me (No mountain, river, or Iwi either) But I am a proud Kiwi. And I value the cultural heritage that we are building as a relatively young country. The haka is part of that cultural heritage and needs to be preserved as iconic and not sold off every street corner like so many plastic tiki before.

**MidnightMike** · 24th March 2006, 17:23

Blackbird, inlinefour, Mental-Trousers, r4q2, Sue VFR, TL Rider

< The haka.

WTF.

ARE YOU CRAZY

OF COURSE ITS OVERUSED.

ITS CRAZY.

I went to a school that, whenever some maori person got an award, the bloody kapa haka got up and had a spaz.

WTF? Sit down. And Clap.

**Coyote** · 24th March 2006, 17:23

Originally Posted by MAXIMUSDEMERITUS

There should be a licencing requirement for pakeha to do it, hell there is for everything else!!!! Norm Hewitt can be appointed Haka Licencing Commisioner or something???

And why do maori get to call us 'Pakeha'? I don't like it. Black americans didn't like being called 'niggers' either