Police chases,60 minites tonight.
Should be good for a yarn afterwards.
Mobile Oil Stain
Police chases,60 minites tonight.
Should be good for a yarn afterwards.
Soo-deep
Sweet, thanx man.Originally Posted by Jackrat
except ex-sgt alex hope is once again spouting his mouth off. i see his mate (and ex boss) ex-s/sgt (and now fellow lawyer) mike meyrick has been awfully quiet since his face was on the front page of the times, having been charged with kiddie porn and perverting the course of justice charges....
Immature and proud of it.
So Alex Hope's experience is not valid because his ex-boss is into kiddie porn.
Phew! Glad you told me that, I might have taken him seriously.
Lou
the media held hope and meyrick up in the same light as experts. alex hope's experience is valid, but unfortunately i believe it is tainted by what i see is a lack of compassion for his (previous) peers and co-workers, and their current situation. he has become like an ex-smoker - unable to appreciate that he was once one of those that he is now slagging off. he cleverly 'remembers' incidents, at the same time distancing himself from them. admittedly he's not the only ex-cop who suffers from that....
and btw, in my previos post i never said that hope's opinion wasn't valid. my comment was about meyrick.
I'd rather be thinking
What annoyed me about the police spokesman's responses was his unwillingness to admit openly what must be fairly clear from an impartial assessment of their policy in operation, namely
(a) that "collateral damage" is acceptable, and
(b) that it has been made acceptable by a deliberate decision to place 100% of the blame, always, on the offender, and
(c) that attempts to challenge the authorized version of events through the PCA are futile because procedures and policies will always be deemed to have been fully complied with.
An attempt to create sympathy for the police by mentioning the psychological trauma that the officers experience when a pursuit results in tragedy left me unmoved, even though I recognize that it is a valid observation. Should they be surprised that some of their cynicism has rubbed off on me?
Mobile Oil Stain
1 in 3 chases end in a crash,At times they know who the offender is any way.
They call off chases and then seconds later the offender crashes.
The cops are affected by adrenaline,The offender is affected by fear.
All the more reasons to take the same approch as more progressive police forces have done an simply stop doing it.Less cowboys and more detectives
Would probably catch more offenders before they got anywhere near a car in the first place.I'm certainly not going to knock the cops for trying but there must be a better way.As was pointed out,some countys in the states have stopped chases all togeather,and it seems to work.How many of these deaths would of happened if the stolen car or unlicenced driver had been let go and picked up at another time.I'm pretty sure that by the time even a petty crim gets to running from the law his prints are on file so it shouldn't be that hard to work it out.A life lost for the sake of an exspired WOF.Sounds a bit crook to me.The cops involed in the Whangarei crash have pretty much been proven as liars yet the big wig on TV still hasn't got the guts to admit it.
As the lady said, he'd change his tune if it was his family member killed for the sake of a WOF.140kms down the main and he puts all the blame on an offender they already knew.Hey I know I ain't that smart but I'm not stupid and neither are most of us.That sort of crap has to stop.
fuckin grumpy leave me alone
Hey MR, totallybut love your new aviturwhatsit thingy.
Firefight
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"Would crawl over broken glass before owning Suzuki"
The only reason I only ride in the Iron man Class is I have no friends left to enter the two man events,
my own fault really.
Immature and proud of it.
Hell Jack, I'm impressed. I was getting the wrong idea about you.
On the subject of Supt. Steve Fitzgerald and the LTSA for that matter, why are these people so fanatical that they can't admit even the slightest doubt or concede that road safety isn't black and white.
It smacks of a type of fundamentalism to me. A sort of 'my dogma is better than yours'.
Lou
Soo-deep
Cheers man. See if you can see the guy comming towards you doing a stoppie and if you look at it differently, he'll be going away from you doing a stoppie! (although, a no right hand stoppie might be a bit hard to masterHey MR, totally
Firefight)
Soo-deep
Amen to that.
Mobile Oil Stain
As the truth comes out I start to lose a bit of faith.
The guy's on the street do a pretty thank less job,But mistakes must be admited to if they are going to mantain that Faith.
Most of our Pollys and people in high places seem to lack the abitlitie to admit mistakes.They certainly do their own cause no good.
And why are they like this???Their job is more important to them than anything else.
Nana
The hard part is the whole if they never persue everyone will do a runner thing. If there is any posssibility of getting away people do runners. It is all well and good to say no more pursuits except in circumstances involving violence and no knowledge of the offender or simmilar but at the end of the day Joe Bloggs who has been toasting st paddy all day will just do a runner (his judgement already impaired and all).
IMHO the only way to reduce pursuit deaths is to make it a severely punishable crime to do a runner. Who in their right mind would do a runner from a wof infringement if the runner could land you 2 years, 10 if involving an injury and a murder charge for a death (all automatically high security)?
That and something needs to be done about the fact that most people still think it is cool to have done or even gotten away with a runner, an unfortunate side effect of reality tv shows.
Forum whore
Because they are fundamentalist zealotswith one particular point of view and like all zealots, they would rather die...or rather, you die, before they would consider anything, outside their narrow proscribed view!
They are trapped by their own dogma!
Fundamentalists!
Fuckin hate em!
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
e mare libertas
I think that the stakes on running are already high enough, most of the time. Although... that fool on the Speed Triple who killed the Burgess girl was carrying a rifle without a firearms license, which comes with QUITE a risk of doing time, although firearms charges are usually used to nail gang members who have been doing much naughtier things, so the typical sentences may be a little skewed. Presumably he knew the cops probably had his plate, and he would rather have faced charges resulting from the runner than the firearms charges. Or maybe he was just off his nut on P and dak.
Who knows.
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