Immature and proud of it.
But they're not there to convert them. Just the heathens.Originally Posted by MisterD
Strangely enough kickingzebra, I have yet to see Muslims going door to door in my neighbourhood. In fact, proselytising seems to be a very christian thing to do. Your neighbourhood may be different.
They might even have religeous turf wars in Mt Roskill for all I know.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
It's OK...I've got a spare!
Hmmmm.............
Assumption is the Mother Of All F*ckups.
Apparently the older Pommy bloke had earlier stated that if he was taken hostage he didn't want to be rescued in an armed intervention....why assume that he had changed his mind?
Why assume that the others wanted to be resued - they may have been getting on famously and the captors ready to convert to Christianism.
Most times - the wording might not be as you put it but the implication is usually there..........ahhhhhh you see - there's that assumption problem again!
I, however, will state here and now that if I get taken by Islamic Fundamentalist terrorists I would quite like to be rescued please.
...she took the KT, and left me the Buell to ride....(Blues Brothers)
It's OK...I've got a spare!
Or a WMD!!!!!Someone should have let of a ND (UD) in their direction.......
(I wasn't intending to be so emphatic but had to add exclamation marks to reach the minimum letter count)
...she took the KT, and left me the Buell to ride....(Blues Brothers)
Playin' around
Well, then rescue all bar the Pommy bloke. Leave him there - in fact, if he didnt want to be rescued - why'd he go with the soldiers? If he was so damned happy there, why didnt he stay?
And assumption is a nasty thing, but what can you do? Just leave everyone that needs to be rescued behind? Lets just leave all kidnappee's with their captors, in fact, lets just extend that out to all others as well. Fishermen that havent returned, trampers that go missing, planes that disappear off the radar - they havent asked for help, why go looking for them?
It's OK...I've got a spare!
Hmmm.........you make some interesting points WRT!
Maybe the Pommy bloke had no choice. I've seen those telly programmes where the soldiers storm in, grab the victims around the arms and storm out again to safety - no time for arguments. I know how it works.
As for your other examples, it's a conundrum alright.
Shouldn't people have the right to disappear if they want to?
And again you've said "....everyone that needs to be rescued...", how do you know?
I just worry in this enlightened age that we might be running the risk of trampling on peoples rights to disappear or fraternise with their kidnappers if they want to.
A kidnapper could turn out to be simply a friend that you would never have met otherwise!
...she took the KT, and left me the Buell to ride....(Blues Brothers)
Hardcore Biker
Yeah my wife kidnapped me 20 years ago, when am I gonna be rescued?
Forum whore
Didn't we all bitch and moan when 9-11 was going on. Now that some guys, for reasons that we do not understand, want to go over and try and stop the killing................and guess what. We still bitch and moan.
Skyryder
Free Scott Watson.
no more pies
I built a medical centre in Mt Roskill, we used to walk through an alleyway to go to the bakery for smoko, until a shop owner kindly informed us that it was a contested lot in the local wars. Someone had been shot there the week before. To death I believe, though I can't prove it. (had to try and translate the vietnamese, but they had some good bacon and egg pies!)
They don't need to proselytise, they are simply biding their time. You don't actually have any choice in the matter as far as they are concerned.
Live or die is the premise.
Why would you present people with your version of the facts, and wait to be brushed off, or argued with, when you can simply suck their countriers welfare system dry, and then force them over to your point of view by democratic election.
This has happened, and I quote a number of smaller Asian countries, (some not so small too) and any number of Russian dependancies.
Afghanistan is one we all know of where this has happened. Malaysia wasn't predominantly muslim at the beginning of last century.
Religion is the opiate of the masses, and we, as well to do people, aren't included in the masses, because more than 50% of the worlds population are currently having difficulty finding enough food to eat tomorrow.
NZ is not the ideal recruiting ground, because we can afford to think, and don't respond so well to mindless inciting.
I cite as an example The recent (and indeed enduring, on a smaller scale) Islamic French Riots. Young educated people (something like 80% of the graduates of Islamic universities have degrees in Islamic studies) who are unemployable, become easily embittered, and are easily stirred up, living in their self imposed Ghettoes.
In this environment, where the youth are discriminated against (Yes I'll employ you young man, what can you do? Well, I can expound on the reason we face Mecca umpteen times a day, and have written a 14 thousand word thesis on this topic. Right, you'll fit in perfectly at this Halal McDonalds!!)
Inciting them to Crazy acts is not hard.
Proselytising is a Christian thing, because, if done as I believe Jesus would have done it, there is no guilt tripping, the requirements are slim. The onus is on the person who has had the gospel explained, not on the proselytiser to score one more convert.
Therefore the proselytee is left with the facts, and makes their own decision in their own time. I would question the intelligence of a christian, running their own scorecard of converts.
I may yet be surprised, but I will state it is a safe bet, that Islam is out to get you. If not you personally, then your children, or your childrens children. They have time. They have young people. We don't. They have the advantage.
Its a war...
But the Mind is mightier than the gun
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The best deals, all the time!
Forum whore
Be gratefull Lou that they don't come door to door because when they do, history records they have a sword in their hand. For those interested,
A HISTORY OF MEDIEVAL ISLAM by J J Saunders.
Skyryder
Free Scott Watson.
Who you gonna call!
hmmmmm we might have been warped by the media boys and girls apparently he did say thanks.
Second is the fastest loser
"It is better to have ridden & crashed than never to have ridden at all" by Bruce Bennett
DB is the new Porridge. Cause most of the mods must be sucking his cock ..... Or his giving them some oral help? How else can you explain it?
Forum whore
WHAT FUCKWIT BRINGS A SWORD TO A GUN FIGHT
Salted Pork
I wonder why he didn't just hand himself back over to the original hostage takers? Perhaps he prefers the current hostage takers, (Rescuers) to the old ones? Maybe he hasn't yet realised that he's been freed? Perhaps when he does realise he will return to Iraq to be taken hostage once more, god forbid he doesn't get to finish what he started?
Hardcore Biker
From what I heard, they had all given instructions not to be rescued (although there support groups didnt exactly tell the forces to keep out of it) and they had thanked the forces.
Love that media!
Psyclepath
It's happening as we speak in Bradford....
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
LOOK.. ZOMBIES!
from being on the 'other' end..i have kicked a few doors in during my stint myself.. even if the ungrateful shits never say thanks .. thier loved ones do... thats really the key..
and i never did it for praise or thanks ,... it was my job..
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