Err, no. The shot did the damage to the fence post.Originally Posted by texmo
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Err, no. The shot did the damage to the fence post.
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You are right and wrong chris. Technology these days allows up to 75% of recoil to be absorbed in the butt of the rifle. The larger caliber weapons even have a shock absorbsion system built in. (Bastard to clean) But an aolder rifle, yes you are right, you would feel the recoil alot, same as a shotgun, but newer rifles, you will be in for a surprise
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I'm not talking about recoil, I'm quoting Isaac Newton's third law. It is about force applied. For example, if you kick a football, at the moment your foot connects with the ball, the ball is exerting the same force against your foot; for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
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Exactly, and Im not disputing that. Im disputing the fact that you are saying that the force of the rabbit being bowled over would be the exact same force applied to the shoulder (recoil) and its not that way.
The force of the pellet hitting the rabbit would be the combined momentum the projectile gains over the range. The force of the recoil is the force/speed of the gases exiting the barrel at that stage. Hence as Texmo said, when he fired a solid slug into the fencepost it was to force of the momentum the projectile gained AFTER leaving the barrel.
Hence the force of the pellet hitting the rabbit would not be the same as the pellet leaving the rifle. HYPOTHETICALLY if it WAS, you wouldn't feel it as rifle butts today are built to absorb the recoil forces
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Absorbers spread load over time, rather than minimise load
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Are you totaly retarded or is this just an act?
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I think it is argument for arguments sake, you see, Finn isn't online pissing off the locality, or creating commotion, niether winja, or any other of the good people that make life interesting
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Life is interesting Kickingzebra, its few and far between that I come along to share my wisdom
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Yes, so the nerds can take the floor, Newton is my idol!!!! Sorry to every other interesting person, perhaps I should have said controversial... Scandalous... jandalless!!
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Here's a question. Set up a rifle/pistol/whatever absolutely horizontal. Fire a bullet and at the same time also drop a bullet from the same height as the rifle/pistol/whatever. Which round will hit the ground first presuming there is nothing to block the trajectory?
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Prsevration of angular momentum... I am going to punt that the dropped one will hit first.
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Oh dear, out of your intellectual depth now and resorting to name calling? Weak.
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Are you serious? Ok, hows this for an answer. The round fired from the rifle/pistol/whatever would hit as it is going faster than terminal velocity of a dropped round. It also is leaving the source at a much faster rate.
You honestly think that applied Newtons law to forced physics will explain recoil? Im not a science graduate, but I know a wee bit
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Wrong and right, we have set up a firing platform to fire directly horizontal, but even if wee take the rotation of the round and the way the bullet moves in flight, the round fired first will still hit the ground
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I am serious and I'm not a science graduate either for starters. I understand your comments regarding recoil (but from my first post I have not been trying to explain recoil) but your answer above is wrong. Both rounds will hit the ground at the same time as the force of gravity is a constant and is not affected by the factors you state.
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