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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog
    Wot a crock - theres no comparison between 22 and a 177 slug gun - even a very good one.

    By your reasoning I would be best off with a big stick - still kills possums and don't miss as much.
    You missed my point, homo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lias
    On a completely unrelated note.
    Who wants to sell me a sniper rifle without a license :-) I have this cunning plan involving high velocity lead and Comrade Clark :-)
    I don't wish to sell it, but you can borrow my Barrett .50 caliber rifle. It's a bit of an overkill for your intended purpose but it will guarantee results and won't let you down. With a trained sniper it has lethal accuracy out to 2000 metres and does not require any tools to assemble or disassemble.

    Disclaimer: Just in case the SIS are reading this, I am joking and in no way support the execution of said communist. However if it did happen, accident or otherwise, I wouldn't be upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swanny
    You missed my point, homo
    I was trying to offer an 'out' to you being a poor shot. Dick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn
    I don't wish to sell it, but you can borrow my Barrett .50 caliber rifle. It's a bit of an overkill for your intended purpose but it will guarantee results and won't let you down. With a trained sniper it has lethal accuracy out to 2000 metres and does not require any tools to assemble or disassemble.

    Disclaimer: Just in case the SIS are reading this, I am joking and in no way support the execution of said communist. However if it did happen, accident or otherwise, I wouldn't be upset.
    I'd love to get my hands on an XM109 with a BORS on it.. If you dont know the XM109 is Barrets new rifle that fires 25mm projectiles instead of .50 ammo. It basically a new take on the anti-tank rifle :-)

    To enable the shooter to engage targets out to 2,500 meters, Barrett has developed an integrated ballistic computer/ riflescope system known as BORS (Barrett Optical Ranging System). Historically, long range shooting has been a highly technical endeavor in which the shooter had to make a number of calculations before the trigger could be pulled. These calculations included range to the target, the effects of barometric pressure and air temperature, and the type of ammunition loaded. BORS automatically calculates all these variables, and adjusts the sight reticule accordingly. All the shooter needs to do is enter the ammunition type into the BORS (using touch pads on the BORS console) determine the range (either mechanically or through a LRF) and crank the elevation knob on the scope until the proper range appears in the BORS display. The BORS automatically determines the temperature and barometric pressure, as well as the cant or tilt in the rifle itself, and incorporates these enviro-physical factors into its calculations. Once the proper range has been entered, the shooter need only put the target under the crosshairs and pull the trigger.

    The Block I version of BORS is available now, while Block II (which will include an integrated range finder) is expected to become available in '05 with Block III (new optics, Night Vision capable, wide angle, stabilized image) becoming available in '06. Lastly, Barrett believes that the BORS system will be completely compatible with the 200mm air-bursting grenade featured on the OICW and that similar ammunition could be developed for use in the XM-109, as well as adapting the BORS to the OICW, to provide ranging and environmental information to the 20mm grenade launcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    As I understand the theory. The rifle recoils much slower than the round travels, but is much heavier. The kinetic energy of both is the same.
    Which is why people don't get blown 20 fett backwards when hit by a bullet.
    Yep, seen a video of a dude getting blasted in the chest while wearing a bullet-proof vest while standing on one leg, two shots from an SLR hardly rocked him
    Likewise when he shot himself in the chest with a 44 Magnum revolver, bugger all effect.

    BTW HAs anybody seen this video and if the have can they (a) remember it's name and (b) where can I get a copy?
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    Guns AND bikes, man, I'm starting to like this forum real quick (No bright ideas Mr Poos)... Gun bag for the bike, saw the butt off a 12ga semi-auto and we're rolling, Arnie stylez!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog
    Yep, seen a video of a dude getting blasted in the chest while wearing a bullet-proof vest while standing on one leg, two shots from an SLR hardly rocked him
    for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction

    Do you think it's sinking in yet? For a body to fly backwards when being shot, the same must happen to the shooter.

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    Not really... A .22 bullet can fly about 1.5 - 2kms, does the rifle fly BACK 1.5 - 2kms?? The force applies bothways, but does not necessarily result in the same movement.

    Force = mass x acceleration.

    The force on both the projectile and the rifle is the same, BUT the 'rifle+shooter' combination is much heavier, so only accelerates a small amount (recoil).

    The bullet, on the other hand, accelerates much faster, to about 1000ft/sec for a typical .22 projectile (.22 Winchester powerpoint)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris
    for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction

    Do you think it's sinking in yet? For a body to fly backwards when being shot, the same must happen to the shooter.
    this game is getting old.
    Only a man who knows what it is like to be defeated can reach down to the bottom of his soul and come up with the extra ounce of power it takes to win when the match is even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris
    for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction

    Do you think it's sinking in yet? For a body to fly backwards when being shot, the same must happen to the shooter.
    Don't have to tell ME that but a shitload of others who have grown up not using guns and watching too many vids or dvds and seeing the 'badie' blown off his feet and fly through the air for about 3 metres after getting hit with a shotgun don't know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texmo
    this game is getting old.
    Nothing to contribute? Then don't post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog
    Don't have to tell ME that but a shitload of others who have grown up not using guns and watching too many vids or dvds and seeing the 'badie' blown off his feet and fly through the air for about 3 metres after getting hit with a shotgun don't know it.
    I once saw a goat get shot with a .22 it was must have gone 30meters after it was shot and killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texmo
    I once saw a goat get shot with a .22 it was must have gone 30meters after it was shot and killed.
    That's it, I'm outta here :slap:

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris
    That's it, I'm outta here :slap:
    it was on top of a cliff and fell off it when it was shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris
    Nothing to contribute? Then don't post.
    That's a bold call. Why don't you go read the title of the thread and who started it?

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