I think you guys are taking this trade agreement too seriously. We've always been an experiment both socially and fiscally, that's why I gave up taking NZ seriously years ago. We've got a bunch of academics full of ideoligy and the cracks have finally surfaced. This is just desperation. The world economies are commenting on two countries that are fucked at the moment. NZ & Iceland.
I say, just look after yourself and your family. Don't live beyond your means and save for a rainy day. Adopt this approach and all this bullshit won't bother you. Now go drink some beer, watch some rugby and beat the wife. You'll feel much better.
I think you guys are taking this trade agreement too seriously. Now go drink some beer, watch some rugby and beat the wife. You'll feel much better.
So, on this wife beating thing, do I actually have to Wear a Wife Beater shirt while beating, or before, or after? I just want to make sure I get it right...
Boyd hh er Suzuki are my heroes!
The best deals, all the time!
Just did a search for NZ and Iceland . Now I wouldnt know anything about the money markets , ( I assume its nowt to do with me wife at the flea market on sunday , though the financial reprocussions are felt sooner )
But it seems to me we have very little control over what happens to the dollar./ Something called carry trade , and the investors dont want to buy NZ ,,,so its hard for us to service the money we owe...
Friggen eck ..that means that Mr Cullen is err not needed ? and that Helen has been trying to move ny focus onto not important things like those nasty icelandic eskimos nuking those cute wee whales.
I think Finn is right , except I am hiding the little money I have under the bed ...what I spent it on another bike,,,well IF I DID have some money I would hide it under the bed in a sock ,,,no one would ever look there !!
Stephen
Whos still struggling with concepts ,,,see pic ( who cares if its a repost its still funny !)
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
Friggen eck ..that means that Mr Cullen is err not needed ? and that Helen has been trying to move ny focus onto not important things like those nasty icelandic eskimos nuking those cute wee whales.
Yep, exactly. The fact is that our politicians are virually irrelevant in terms of whether our economy succeeds or not. Booms and busts happen despite whoever is in Parliament.
I wonder how many of us thought the same about Japanese products when they first arrived in New Zealand all those years ago?????
I was probably a little young to look at the politics but I remember the products were poorly assembled jokes made of equally poor quality material.
But look at japanese products now.
However I just was commenting on the quality. I don't care where they come from so much. But shyte quality is just garbage. Although there must be kiwis out there who are happy to buy the stuff. As for Japanese? I swear by the stuff.
Those who insist on perfect safety, don't have the balls to live in the real world.
No you have it wrong, This isnt about the chinese, this is about protecting nz businesses. Cheap crap from anywhere is a bad thing, If it can be made here and sold here it should be...
Why protect NZ business? Which business? Shoe manufacturers? Clothes? Motorcycles? Cars? With enough protection all off these could be produced here. But we'd pay 5 - 10 times the price and we'd all be poorer.
Earlier a poster mentioned the closure of textile mills in Britain because the work moved to India, Bangladesh etc. Did that bankrupt Britain? No. In fact the Poms are better off than us in money terms. (Lifestyle is a different matter).
What about all the American auto and steel plants which closed? Competition from the Japanese and Asian manufacturers was too much. So is the USA broke? No, it continues to be the strongest economy in the world.
have you though about the job losses, They say that upto 15000 textile workers will be out, Why would they import slop from here when it can be produced there at a 10th of the price. Get with it, They want to offload cheap shit on our shores. We will see very little benifit to our local businesses. Yes we will be able to purchase cheap crap from the warehouse and alike. BUT THERE WILL BE A COST TO JOBS HERE.
Can't be fagged reading the whole thread, but in regards to this...
Why keep producing textiles here if we're no good at it? If those produced here are really that much better to justify the price, then they'll survive.
If they can't be innovative, then yes, they will die out because the Chinese have bred like rabbits over the past 150 years or so, and there is a huge human resource there being exploited by the upper class and those with mates in government.
Protecting an industry that relies too much on labour (which is relatively expensive in this country) with bullshit protection mechanisms will do nothing for the country. Look at our farming, it's some of the most efficient (if not the most?) in the world, because they had tariffs removed and were made to fight for themselves and improve.
Compare this with the European farmers, and what a fuckin waste of space they are. White blood elephants. The official line for the UK is that they are only kept around as a lifestyle image to show city kids how it used to be back in the day. They suck up so much tax payer money there it's not funny.
The textile industry here may get killed (unless they improve). Local ivestors will then put their money in to something that NZ can make money from.
We bitch when the stupid Yanks put 50% tax on our lamb to protect the morns who're still doing it the way gramps and gramma did it back the day because they don't want to change, so why should our textile industry get the same kind of protection.
Easy for me to say because I don't stand to lose. But then, I didn't gain when the industry was making money, so it's pretty fair really.
No you have it wrong, This isnt about the chinese, this is about protecting nz businesses. Cheap crap from anywhere is a bad thing, If it can be made here and sold here it should be...
Who says it's crap? Plenty of stuff made in China is of fine quality. If NZ consumers are too dumb to make a purchasing decision based on long-term economic benefit, or at least consult someone who can make that decision well (none of us know everything about everything), then it's their own fault, and they're screwing the country, not the Chinese.
Who says it's crap? Plenty of stuff made in China is of fine quality..
Like what?
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
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Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan
Who says it's crap? Plenty of stuff made in China is of fine quality. If NZ consumers are too dumb to make a purchasing decision based on long-term economic benefit, or at least consult someone who can make that decision well (none of us know everything about everything), then it's their own fault, and they're screwing the country, not the Chinese.
As for protecting NZ business, see above post.
I said it was crap, But thats only my opinion. You might know better, Infact you may have been made in china,??? .
All im saying is that ,,, aaaaaaaaaaaa fuck it lets just import lots, loose our work force, go on the doll, get drunk, and not give a shit.......
Dont sweat the small stuff, It only makes you stressed,
he's talking bout the prositutes me thinks....oh.....but isn't that where hondas are made?
Nah Honda's are made in Taiwan.... Suzukis are made in China arent they?
Exert your talents, and distinguish yourself, and don't think of retiring from the world, until the world will be sorry that you retire. -Samuel Johnson
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Originally Posted by Finn
Dunno, was before my time.
Dont sweat the small stuff, It only makes you stressed,
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