Free trade with China. What are your thoughts?

**Streetwise** · 6th April 2006, 14:35

yea thats it do you want to invest, im sure it will go well,

**MSTRS:Me** · 6th April 2006, 14:38

Originally Posted by Streetwise

yea thats it do you want to invest, im sure it will go well,

And we could open a MacXaio's - DimSums on an EggRoll will be the specialty

**Sniper** · 6th April 2006, 14:39

Is it the Chinese or Japanese who eats cats and dogs and rats?

**Streetwise** · 6th April 2006, 14:45

Originally Posted by MSTRS

And we could open a MacXaio's - DimSums on an EggRoll will be the specialty

We could also have deepfried maori rass lips, as a side dish.

**MSTRS:Me** · 6th April 2006, 14:47

Originally Posted by Sniper

Is it the Chinese or Japanese who eats cats and dogs and rats?

....yes....

**Sniper** · 6th April 2006, 14:48

Both?

**Kickaha** · 6th April 2006, 14:54

Originally Posted by Streetwise

I would rather pay $10 more and have it made here if posible,

Unfortunately most people wont and will buy on price rather than quality

Chinese Quality control leaves a lot to be desired

**MisterD** · 6th April 2006, 15:04

Originally Posted by Winston001

That's a good point. The free trade deal is a political stamp of approval for the Chinese government and the repression it entails. I know Helen Clark will say that it is purely an economic deal but in her youth the same woman was opposed to any ties to South Africa.

HC needs the Chinese vote if she's ever going to have a chance of the big chair at the UN. Thats the price of our stamp of approval....

**Matt Bleck** · 6th April 2006, 15:13

Be good if they start sending over some decent motorcicles!!

**Motu** · 6th April 2006, 15:35

Originally Posted by Jonty

the Britten

I'm not sure what your reply means - but that's exactly what we will lose,the ability to make things like the Britten.This country is rich in smart people who can work with their hands and brains,we have always turned out leading edge engineering products.Twenty years ago this country was full of small engineering shops churning out items for our own consumption,and a small export trade.Free trade killed them,probably 75% have gone,just a few left who are able to make and market niche products.Free trade with China will kill our smart engineers completely,we won't be able to make a single thing to compete...we will be consumers only,non productive people with the inability to support themselves...we won't know how.

**cowpoos** · 6th April 2006, 15:38

Originally Posted by mstriumph

.......at least YOUR lot haven't agreed to sell 'em uranium

ohhhh yeah - let me see - there's a provisio in the agreement that they don't use it for weaponry [of course, there's NO chance they'll just use it to free up their OWN uranium for weaponry is there?

]

raises imorality to an artform, dunnit?

i despair .................

some body a lil outta touch with what really happening in the big wide world lass???

you'll find canada has been selling uraniium to china for donleys years...

**Biff** · 6th April 2006, 15:39

Chinese industry knows no ethics. They steal their designs from other countries, and from companies that have ploughed millions into R&D, knowing they can't be sued. They treat their staff miserably. They have no worker protection policies (safety, rights, social/health care), they are heavy polluters etc etc.

How can a civilised industiral society compete against Chinese industry?

I believe the world should take a moral stand and not just look at the $ value of doing business with these guys. The world should only deal with these guys as and when they conform to international law and respect human rights. Then again I live in a dream world.

Animals IMO. (again - the govt not the people)

**Lou Girardin** · 6th April 2006, 15:47

Ever said to your girlfriend, "go on sweetie, just try it. I'll be real gentle and you'll probably enjoy it"?
That's what China is saying to Helen now. But we'll be the ones getting fucked.
In everything from conservation to economics they are parasites. They have no respect for anything but their own needs. Be it indiscriminate killing to supply sharks fin soup, bear bile or just ignoring patent and copyright laws.