Free trade with China. What are your thoughts?

**Ixion** · 6th April 2006, 15:53

Free trade is newspeak for economic slavery.

**Streetwise** · 6th April 2006, 15:56

we can export our cats and dogs there will be no need for the spca...

**Ixion** · 6th April 2006, 16:02

Originally Posted by The_Dover

errm, what if she did enjoy it?

Trust me, no-one enjoys being the victim of economic rape.

New globalisation is but old colonialism writ large.

**oldrider** · 6th April 2006, 16:04

Originally Posted by Motu

I'm not sure what your reply means - but that's exactly what we will lose,the ability to make things like the Britten.This country is rich in smart people who can work with their hands and brains,we have always turned out leading edge engineering products.Twenty years ago this country was full of small engineering shops churning out items for our own consumption,and a small export trade.Free trade killed them,probably 75% have gone,just a few left who are able to make and market niche products.Free trade with China will kill our smart engineers completely,we won't be able to make a single thing to compete...we will be consumers only,non productive people with the inability to support themselves...we won't know how.

There is a lot in what you say Motu, especially the last comment!
We will most likely degenerate into "potential" consumers, because the majority of us will have no income or ability to pay for the cheap imports from Helen's friends in China!
Who will she tax to pay us our benefit money so that we can "consume"?
Perhaps her friends in China will send us "aid". :spudwhat: MMmmmmm, John.

**Lou Girardin** · 6th April 2006, 16:11

Originally Posted by The_Dover

errm, what if she did enjoy it?

Lucky girl. I don't want to find out.

**Brian d marge** · 6th April 2006, 16:20

Any chance you fellas can have a peek out side the window and see what the rest of the world has been doing.

Shes a big ole wide world out there ......

scary init

Stephen

**Streetwise** · 6th April 2006, 17:16

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

Any chance you fellas can have a peek out side the window and see what the rest of the world has been doing.

Shes a big ole wide world out there ......

scary init

Stephen

ive had a look and dont like it,.....

**Ixion** · 6th April 2006, 17:19

I had a look to. It needs blowing up.

**Streetwise** · 6th April 2006, 17:22

leave that to the americans

**The_Dover** · 6th April 2006, 17:26

Originally Posted by Streetwise

leave that to the americans

Nah, they'd only fuck that up too.

**Dafe** · 6th April 2006, 17:29

Originally Posted by Sniper

You honestly think China has the capability to use nukes? They have the biggest Army, Navy and Airforce in the world, Im fairly sure a nuke would just piss them off. Besides, they have been collecting uranium from numerous countries since the 70's, and most their nukes have been accounted and watched over by UN members.

The Chinese Airforce is nowhere near the technological level of the U.S. Airforce. The U.S. airforce is considered far superior.
The Chinese Naval fleet is only larger because the Chinese haven't decomissioned so many rust buckets that other navy's such as the U.S. would have sunk a good 20-30 years ago. Although the Chinese fleet is larger, the U.S. fleet is still considered more powerful.
As for the Chinese Army, they have it over that over the U.S. based on pure man power.
However, The U.S. have allegience with Cern. The technology held by a European/American community, if harnessed for warfare, this technology would see China backdown in an instant.
Let's hope the U.S. have it under wrapps, coz I hate communism fullstop!

God Bless Democracy and God Bless the U.S.!

and China can stick their "tooo dollah" shops up their arses!

**Motu** · 6th April 2006, 17:51

Sorry sonny,the yanks are fucked - money power beats fire power any day.

**Pathos** · 6th April 2006, 18:06

people complain that the chinese government treats their citizens like shite.

well yes they do, but most of them are too poor to care about.

Only once chinese start earning money will they place more value on each others lives and society will improve. Its the same all over the planet. no one cares about civil rights and governments until they can afford to care.

Lately china started shutting down dangerous mines, its a small start but would it have happened 10 years ago? No cause they can afford to do so now.

Economic changes over the next 50 years are going to be staggering and will probably spark a new round of political change. Although some seem to be falling back into the dark ages (russia).