Cheaters in motor racing in NZ

[Wellyman]

Well I have just been reading the NZ V8's site (www.nzv8s.co.nz) and Toyota Pitlane on the telly and am intrested about what is happening with Ford motors.

MotorSport New Zealand Inquiry
6:04:2006

Following inspection of some Ford engines used by NZV8 competitors the Technical Department of MotorSport New Zealand have sent a report to the Event Director advising that the engine heads inspected do not comply with the class articles. An inquiry/hearing will be held. We will notify you of the details of the decision of the Event Director and the competitors involved as soon as available.

I don't think any of the teams are meaing to cheat but this was all started off by Kayne Scotts little pissy fit in his interview after the racing at Taupo. I think there is a problem with the motors being give to the drivers and it isn't the team drivers or engineers fault. Angus Fogg is in the clear but plenty of people no just at the front of the feild have been deemed to have illegal heads on their cars, I think this is a Ford fuck up, as it is happened to more then one driver but is an intresting development with one round of the series to go at the V8 Supercar meeting at pukekohe being their last round. Why didn't somebody do something earlier if they were concerened? I think the Holdens have finally figured out there cars are for slow grandma drivers and are throwing shit in a way, just my opinion though. Whats your thoughts?, would love to have a few peoples comments on this.
WM

[madboy]

From my experience of motorsport, the more serious you are about it the more likely you are to work those rules to your advantage. It's only cheating if you get caught. Toyota did it in rallying several years ago, no doubt many other manufacturers have been doing it too. If I recall correctly Ferrari were also pretty selective with their interpretation of the rules in Formula One too, or was it another team? Or is it all of them?? I don't follow V8s close enough to know the full saga on this one, but the issue of parity will always be a heated debate. With two different cars from different manufacturers with different components it will always be a seesaw thing. This week it's Ford on top. Holden will jump up and down until they're on top. And then guess who'll be whinging then?

[James Deuce]

What now? They race these "car" things?

How, errr, interesting.

[mangell6]

GM are just annoyed that they have not got enough horse power on the straights. As with ALL this sort of thing it is interpretation and if it has beened deemed OK in Oz then MANZ won't have a leg.

"Lawyers to the Pitland please, cheque books at the ready."

[Timber020]

Q) How can you tell when a fords cheating

A) When its not coming last!

Oh no, cheating in the great family sedan 2 horse series? werent they limiting one make for a while so the other stood a chance?

[Motu]

It's hard to think of a more contrived racing class....it's good racing,but hardly ''fair''.Kinda like the Ducati domination in WSB....it only happened because of a printing mistake.

[scumdog]

Blue ovel man from waaay back - but how often do you hear the Ford team having a whinge? and they are normally in 2nd place so you'ld think they would have more reason to whinge.

[The Stranger:Me]

I think the Holdens have finally figured out there cars are for slow grandma drivers and are throwing shit in a way, just my opinion though. Whats your thoughts?, would love to have a few peoples comments on this.
WM

You think do you?

The only reason the Fords even got a look in to the winners circle is because they changed the rules to hobble the Holdens for fear of Holden ruining the class (by winning about 20yrs in a row). Basically as they did with the F1 to hobble Ferrari.


You would think that Ford would be grateful and not then resort to bending the rules. They should have just let natural selection run it's course.
Still at least we can be thankful we have Fords. Need something to keep the dickheads out of Holdens.

[TONO]

Of course we all know what happens to both Fraud & Hogdahms when you introduce Japanese manufactured 2 ltr cars to car racing!!! OH my god how can those little biddy motors go so fast and last so long.
My opinion...noisy fuckers going nowhere....
Will admit good to watch though :-)

[Lou Girardin]

Will admit good to watch though :-)

Yeah, but they had to allow biff and bash to keep an audience.

[stify]

Still at least we can be thankful we have Fords.

i'm thankful, keeps me employed....full time

[stify]

it's not the only issue with the ford's at the moment, we sent a page of the manual relating to the rear suspension mounting points to manz cause the holdon drivers are complaining that the fords are gettin too much drive outa the corners.....oh well at least the crashin is fun to watch

[Lou Girardin]

It's an old story. The Aussies wrote Sierras, M3's, Skylines out of the rules because they made Aussie iron look like the slow pieces of shit that they are. M3's in particular made them look stupid, half the engine size and seconds quicker around any track.
Pushrod engines and live axles in this day and age - ridiculous.

[Buster]

I thought motorsport was about development as much as it was racing. A little rule bending is part of finding the limit. It would be cool if they let more types of car in, like the early 90s. I would actually watch it. The aussie V8s do nothing for me except for give me a laugh at all the wannabie race drivers on the road. How much did that new V8 cost ya? Well it just got smoked by my 10k nissan.

[The Stranger:Me]

Of course we all know what happens to both Fraud & Hogdahms when you introduce Japanese manufactured 2 ltr cars to car racing!!! OH my god how can those little biddy motors go so fast

Because they turbo them. Like turbo charging in any class of racing (including F1) there are restriction placed on them.

and last so long.
My opinion...noisy fuckers going nowhere....
Will admit good to watch though :-)

Hmm the V8's don't seem to have too mauch problem lasting the race. Turbo's on the other hand don't last so well.