Prison American Style

[Beemer]

Excellent - that guy's comparison to the troops in Iraq was good - you don't hear them moaning about the conditions, they even volunteer to go! That's the whole point - if you do the crime then don't expect prison to be like a holiday home. While I'm not condoning maltreatment of prisoners, why should their lives be easy? Make them work, give them basic food and housing, and no luxuries. Hell, we don't have Sky, three free meals a day and all our power bills paid for us and we're the good guys!

Clone these guys or bring them here NOW!!!

[dnos]

"This isn't the Ritz/Carlton.
If you don't like it, don't come back."

hell yes.

No way that would happen in good ol New PC Zealand

I would deffinitely vote for him

[Dooly]

The guy is a champion!

[sAsLEX]

The guy is a champion!

But what are his recividist rates like?

[placidfemme]

recividist

What does that word mean?

[sAsLEX]

What does that word mean?

if i spelt it right it refers to those who repeat offend or something, should stick to my normal limited vocabulary

[ManDownUnder]

I wonder what his death threat rates are like too!

I like his style. Probaby over the top... but very very close to how I think it needs to be.

Chain gangs are wonderful things. Hard work, humiliation and getting shit jobs done - all in one!

[crazybigal]

man i wouldnt want to be that guy! someone is going to pop him when they get out of jail just to get even!

[Lias]

What does that word mean?

From Wikipedia:
Recidivism is the act of a person repeating an undesirable behavior after they have either experienced negative consequences of that behavior, or have been treated or trained to extinguish that behavior. The term is most frequently used in conjunction with substance abuse and criminal behavior. For example, scientific literature may refer to the recidivism of sexual offenders, meaning the frequency with which they are detected or apprehended committing additional sexual crimes after being released from prison for similar crimes. (If to be counted as recidivism the reoffending requires voluntary disclosure or arrest and conviction, the real recidivism rate may differ substantially from reported rates.) As another example, alcoholic recidivism might refer to the proportion of people who, after successful treatment by Alcoholics Anonymous, report having, or are determined to have, returned to the abuse of alcohol.

As reported on BBC Radio 4 on 2 September 2005, the recidivism rates for released prisoners in the United States of America is 60% compared with 50% in the United Kingdom. The report attributed the lower recidivism rate in the UK to a focus on rehabilitation and education of prisoners compared with the US focus on punishment, deterrence and keeping potentially dangerous individuals away from society.

Some observers now view the treatment of recidivism, especially for criminal offenders who are at risk of re-incarceration, as being a mental health issue rather than a "crime" issue for which choice theory based programs may be highly effective. See the Better-Choices link below.

Michael Maltz wrote an extensive monograph (2 MB) on the subject of recidivism in the US in 1994.

[Lias]

PS: Yes this guy is fucking awsome too.. I vote we turn the central plateau (what the desert rd runs through) into a giant tent prison..

White Island does appeal but I'm sure tony Ellis ans his pack of civil liberties assholes would get uppity about us putting them in a live volcano.

[terbang]

recidivist

Noun
Someone who is repeatedly arrested for criminal behaviour (especially for the same criminal behaviour)

Someone who lapses into previous undesirable patterns of behaviour

[ManDownUnder]

White Island does appeal but I'm sure tony Ellis ans his pack of civil liberties assholes would get uppity about us putting them in a live volcano.

uh huh... your point being?

Actually I take that back... but I am surprised you care.

[Lias]

uh huh... your point being?

Actually I take that back... but I am surprised you care.

I think that we could coneviably get away with building prisons like this in NZ with our current laws (the Civil Liberties types would scream of course, but I think we could honestly do it).. I dont think we could get away with putting them on White Island with our current laws, not that it isnt a very good idea.

[Lou Girardin]

As long as he doesn't go to far.

And before you think I'm soft do a google on this guy. You'll also find he's been had up for assault on a crippled guy in a wheelchair and various charges for prisoners dying killed while in his charge.

See Wikipedia among others: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

Sssshhhhh. You're not displaying the correct attitude.

[Dilligaf]

USA JAIL - SOME INTERESTING READING
TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO, HE IS THE MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF (ARIZONA) AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.


These are some of the reasons why:



Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the 'tent city jail' to save Arizona from spending tens of millions of dollars on another expensive prison complex.

He has jail meals down to 20 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them.

He banned smoking and pornographic magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but 'G' movies. He says:
'They're in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave.'



He started chain gangs to use the inmates to do free work on county and city projects and save taxpayer's money.



Then he started chain gangs for women so he wouldn't get sued for discrimination.

He took away cable TV until he found out there was a federal court order that required cable TV for jails. So he hooked up the cable TV again but only allows the Disney channel and the weather channel.

When asked why the weather channel, he replied: 'So these morons will know how hot it's gonna be while they are working on my chain gangs.'
He cut off coffee because it has zero nutritional value and is therefore a waste of taxpayer money. When the inmates complained, he told them, 'This isn't the Ritz/Carlton. If you don't like it, don't come back.'
He also bought the Newt Gingrich lecture series on US history that he pipes into the jails. When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he replied that a democratic lecture series that actually tells the truth for a change would be welcome and that it might even explain why 95% of the inmates were in his jails in the first place.

With temperatures being even hotter than usual in Phoenix (116 degrees just set a new record for June 2nd 2007), the Associated Press reported: About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed wire surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts.



On the Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing pink boxer shorts were overheard chatting in the tents, where temperatures reached 128 degrees.
'This is hell. It feels like we live in a furnace,' said Ernesto Gonzales, an inmate for 2 years with 10 more to go. 'It's inhumane.'
Joe Arpaio, who makes his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches, is not one bit sympathetic. 'Criminals should be punished for their crimes - not live in luxury until it's time for parole, only to go out and commit more crimes so they can come back in to live on taxpayers money and enjoy things many taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.'

The same day he told all the inmates who were complaining of the heat in the tents: 'It's between 120 to 130 degrees in Iraq and our soldiers are living in tents too, and they have to walk all day in the sun, wearing full battle gear and get shot at, and they have not committed any crimes, so shut your damned mouths!'

Way to go, Sheriff! If all prisons were like yours there would be a lot less crime and we would not be in the current position of running out of prison spaces.


Sheriff Joe was just re-elected as Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona