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    Y'reckon he'd consider a couple years holiday here in NZ to sort out our softcock PC system of jails and government? He sounds like he'd probably have it sorted in about 6 months!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    He sounds like he'd probably have it sorted in about 6 months!!!
    Unfortunately it would take a heck of a lot longer than that to get the brainwashing removed. The Looney labourite sect has done some serious damage.
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    Deport em all to Oztraylia.. no hang on....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Unfortunately it would take a heck of a lot longer than that to get the brainwashing removed. The Looney labourite sect has done some serious damage.
    So we tell him to bring LOTS of tents and a few projectors so we can show people the amazing retro world of "thinking for yourself" and "taking responsibility for my own screwups-aka yes it IS your fault you did that" along with :no, some clown in wellington does not, in fact know whats best for you"
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    Hows about a Tent Prison Camp in Central Otago-that'l learn em eh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    R.E.S.P.E.C.T!

    "If you don't like it, don't come back!" - says it all really doesn't it?
    100% right, which is why our inmates GO back; they like it in there. Three meals, Sky, warm and cozy, no bills, no responsibility, the list of warm fuzzies goes on.

    You'd have ter-rubble in NZ if you tried to implement any of his ideas/ideals here though as the man is too realistic, up front and RIGHT!

    I saw the doco too and thought at the time we need a few of him here, fat chance.

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    sure would have saved the millions over budget on the last prison that was being built with the under floor heating etc.....I can't remember where that was (somewhere in N.Z) but it cost millions over the budget of millions to build it!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisso View Post
    Deport em all to Oztraylia.. no hang on....
    yes inDEEDy 'hang on...'
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    Before you start singing the praises of this guy, at least take the time to read about the stuff he got wrong.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arp..._and_criticism

    Some feel that Sheriff Arpaio's actions are based less on a desire to serve the public and to lower crime, but more on demagoguery and grandstanding that hurt the public welfare. Amnesty International issued a report critical of the treatment of inmates in Maricopa County facilities. Criticism has resulted due to lawsuits filed against the sheriff’s office by family members of inmates who died in jail custody and in high-speed pursuits involving deputies. The lawsuits have cost Maricopa County more than $43 million in settlement claims during Arpaio's tenure.

    From 2004 through November 2007, Arpaio was the target of 2,150 lawsuits in U.S. District Court and hundreds more in Maricopa County courts; 50 times as many lawsuits as the New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, and Houston jail systems combined.

    Arpaio is currently subject to a class-action lawsuit, Hart v. Arpaio, brought by Phoenix attorney Debra Hill and the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of jail inmates. The case addresses pretrial detainees, who are legally innocent until proven guilty. The lawsuit claims that Arpaio is violating the constitutional rights of those detainees. Health and corrections experts are currently examining conditions in Arpaio's jails, in connection with the suit, which is scheduled to go to trial in August, 2008.

    By mid-year 2007, more than $50 million in claims had been filed against the sheriffs office and Maricopa County.

    Furthermore, in a 1998 Arpaio commissioned study, Arizona State University Criminal Justice professor Marie L. Griffin found that Arpaio's policies did nothing to reduce recidivism in the Maricopa County facilities compared to his predecessor: "there was no significant difference in recidivism observed between those offenders released in 1989-1990 and those released in 1994-1995."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    Before you start singing the praises of this guy, at least take the time to read about the stuff he got wrong
    Who cares what he's doing is better than anything that'll ever be done here, more power to the guy.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    Who cares what he's doing is better than anything that'll ever be done here, more power to the guy.........
    Yeah ... because breaking the neck of a paraplegic in a wheelchair is an effective way to fight crime.

    Read the criticisms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    Before you start singing the praises of this guy, at least take the time to read about the stuff he got wrong.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arp..._and_criticism
    I was just going to ask has it actually reduced crime?? Cause if all he is trying to do is punish the inmates and it is having no effect then he is no better than them. If however crime has dramatically decreased since he was elected then roll it all out!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest View Post
    Yeah ... because breaking the neck of a paraplegic in a wheelchair is an effective way to fight crime.
    Those damn paraplegics has it comin' I'm telling ya! They are certainly not upstanding citizens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by k14 View Post
    I was just going to ask has it actually reduced crime?? Cause if all he is trying to do is punish the inmates and it is having no effect then he is no better than them. If however crime has dramatically decreased since he was elected then roll it all out!!
    Well, if the crime rate hasn't gone up and they are saving money on jail costs then it is certainly an improvement!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    Well, if the crime rate hasn't gone up and they are saving money on jail costs then it is certainly an improvement!
    Yep true, the funny thing is that the wikipedia article doesn't seem to say if either crime has been reduced or it has cost less. The $50 million in law suits has probably nullified the savings made on meals etc.

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