Eating Disorders

[shazzygirl]

Wow, nice to know that there are some nice people out there who honestly do care.
To those that are skeptical - maybe you would like to Pm me and I will tell you exactly what it is, what it is like, and all the horrid things that this disease does to your mind, your body, your life, and your soul. Then you may be more informed and the scarcasm will be less negative.
To be informed - is to have knowledge!

[Keystone19]

Sorry but have to disagree and ED's are not insidious......sorry.

Let me reword that...Eating disorders can be insidious.

[SARGE]

im not sceptical or sarcastic.. we all make life changing desisions on a daily basis... should i have that Donut.. should i fire up this ciggy, should i have this triple shot of tequilla..

peer pressure is bollox..be happy with who and what you are and stuff what everyone else thinks

[Grahameeboy]

Let me reword that...Eating disorders can be insidious.

Cool.....I still disagree.........

[The_Dover]

Sarge, you should definitely not have that donut.

But I do feel you should share the tequila.

With me.

[Edbear]

Sorry Edbear but you cannot have an any understanding of the issues....this is a mental illness.

I appreciate it is a mental illness, and I've had a lot of experience in dealing with mental illnesses and the complex nature of their onset and treatment. I've spent many years researching the subject.While not having to face the actual problem specifically of an eating disorder, I have had to deal with daughters who were subject to the type of pressure, both without and within, as regards self image and the danger of developing such a disorder.

I have been surprised at times by the comments in this forum from members who have shown remarkable insight on certain subjects which I would have not expected going by the usual image they portray of themselves, so would be reluctant to say that any particular person wuold not have some understanding of a particular subject. If you have personal knowledge and experience of, or especially qualifications pertinent to the subject I would value your opinions.

If my initial lighthearted comments gave the impression I was making light of the problem, I certainly apologise. It is a heartrending issue for the person so afflicted and their families. I have the greatest respect for those who have either beaten or learned to control the disorder and for those professionals who work so hard to assist them.

I don't believe it is a self-inflicted disorder, either, as that may imply an action that is somewhat deliberate. Rather it stems from self-image which may be due to peer pressure, but can also come from within. One of my daughters suffered a breakdown because she was trying to be perfect and no matter what we assured her as her parents, for some reason she set unreasonably high goals and standards for herself. She eventually collapsed. To see your teenage daughter locked in her darkened room for two weeks unable to receive visitors and unable to accept reassurances is very hard for a parent. We worked closely with her Doctor and learned as much as we could about Mental Illness. Today, she is fairly well adjusted and has a wonderfully supportive husband, and she's recently become a Mum. Her efforts on her own part to learn and cope with her problem make us very proud of her. Anyone who can succeed in getting through such things is to be commended.

[Grahameeboy]

im not sceptical or sarcastic.. we all make life changing desisions on a daily basis... should i have that Donut.. should i fire up this ciggy, should i have this triple shot of tequilla..

peer pressure is bollox..be happy with who and what you are and stuff what everyone else thinks

Sadly for some, thankfully a minority, this is not true and they need help......having had a Sister who had ED and being the Father of a disabled Daughter (and dealing with a very depressed Wife who sadly left), I understand 'weakness' and am always happy to help others.

[SARGE]

i have had HEAPS of experience with ED's and Drug abuse and alchoholism..cant say i felt sorry for any of them.. i agree that once you start down that slope it is VERY hard to climb back out.. so the answer is " dont start down the slope... you know what P will do.. you know what booze will do.. smoking causes cancer etc...

there are HEAPS of resources available to research anything you want to get into.. use the info.. make up your own mind .. if Tiffany tells you its cool to make yourself puke so you can fit into the size 0 dress.. just use your brain.. shouldnt be difficult to decide...

i like Chubby Sex - Denny Crane

[Grahameeboy]

I appreciate it is a mental illness, and I've had a lot of experience in dealing with mental illnesses and the complex nature of their onset and treatment. I've spent many years researching the subject.While not having to face the actual problem specifically of an eating disorder, I have had to deal with daughters who were subject to the type of pressure, both without and within, as regards self image and the danger of developing such a disorder.

I have been surprised at times by the comments in this forum from members who have shown remarkable insight on certain subjects which I would have not expected going by the usual image they portray of themselves, so would be reluctant to say that any particular person wuold not have some understanding of a particular subject. If you have personal knowledge and experience of, or especially qualifications pertinent to the subject I would value your opinions.

If my initial lighthearted comments gave the impression I was making light of the problem, I certainly apologise. It is a heartrending issue for the person so afflicted and their families. I have the greatest respect for those who have either beaten or learned to control the disorder and for those professionals who work so hard to assist them.

I don't believe it is a self-inflicted disorder, either, as that may imply an action that is somewhat deliberate. Rather it stems from self-image which may be due to peer pressure, but can also come from within. One of my daughters suffered a breakdown because she was trying to be perfect and no matter what we assured her as her parents, for some reason she set unreasonably high goals and standards for herself. She eventually collapsed. To see your teenage daughter locked in her darkened room for two weeks unable to receive visitors and unable to accept reassurances is very hard for a parent. We worked closely with her Doctor and learned as much as we could about Mental Illness. Today, she is fairly well adjusted and has a wonderfully supportive husband, and she's recently become a Mum. Her efforts on her own part to learn and cope with her problem make us very proud of her. Anyone who can succeed in getting through such things is to be commended.

Thanks for your insight Edbear and I rapidly take my post back......my Sister had ED for 14 years, I was involved in charitable work and ward visits for the ED Association in UK so just experience.

[Cajun]

My mother bearly suvived an ED, in course of ED she had other mental problems.

Which in turn ruined our family, it was not her fault, she had been battling pretty much her whole life(was not related to peer pressure, as someone stated above), and sprouted back up due some other issues(teenage years, then came back at early 30), will keep battling it for rest of life. It as done unreserveable damage to her.

Not does it just effect the person it effects the persons family. Its hard for a child seeing there parents, pretty much, wasting away(at one stage she was 32kgs), and not caring. This has caused effects in the childens lifes, way they see world etc.

So of people posting here, please if you don't have anything helpful to say, please don't say anything, and don't open this thread any more.

[Grahameeboy]

i have had HEAPS of experience with ED's and Drug abuse and alchoholism..cant say i felt sorry for any of them.. i agree that once you start down that slope it is VERY hard to climb back out.. so the answer is " dont start down the slope... you know what P will do.. you know what booze will do.. smoking causes cancer etc...

there are HEAPS of resources available to research anything you want to get into.. use the info.. make up your own mind .. if Tiffany tells you its cool to make yourself puke so you can fit into the size 0 dress.. just use your brain.. shouldnt be difficult to decide...

i like Chubby Sex - Denny Crane

Fair enough...........

[Edbear]

Sadly for some, thankfully a minority, this is not true and they need help......having had a Sister who had ED and being the Father of a disabled Daughter (and dealing with a very depressed Wife who sadly left), I understand 'weakness' and am always happy to help others.

BINGO! Now I understand your reaction to my comments.I suspected you may have had some experience in such matters.

[Lou Girardin]

yea.. sorry to offend the PC Brigade..

i am glad you beat the problem, but at the end of the day.. eating disorders are a self-inflicted illness, much like alchoholism, drug abuse, smoking or jogging...

God forbid you say anything that might upset anyone Sarge. Have some green.

[NotaGoth]

Excuse those who have been insensitive enough to crack jokes shazzy. Eating disorders are an extremely sensitive subject. Especially when people don't understand that just out rightly telling someone to eat isn't going to help matters, and people won't even begin to understand or see the affects it can have on a person until they either go through it themselves, or watch a family member or friend go through that type of situation.

I can't say that I've seen the full blown effects of it for myself. But when I was younger and going to school I never used to eat, always weighed myself, and if I didn't feel satisfied with the weight I saw on the scales off to bed I went minus dinner. (I'll wait for the cutter comments)

Good on you for getting through it. I think its something that people need to be more aware of. People need to be made aware that yes it is ok to ask for help. Everyone is perfect and beautiful in their own way, and sticking your fingers down your throat, or starving yourself ain't going to make you any more perfect than what you already are.

Good on you for being able to admit that you have been there, and followed the long road through. Rep coming your way.

[SARGE]

God forbid you say anything that might upset anyone Sarge. Have some green.

just stating facts Lou.. i dont bow down to PC or peer pressure..


call it "Tough Love"


Shazz.. please dont take my comments as nasty or hateful... they are not meant as such.. these are MY opinions , based on the way i was raised and my life experiences..be strong, be yourself and dont let the idiot advertisers and media tell you what "Perfect " is.. you seem to be doing ok


in my first post.. i stated that i wanted to be 300 pounds by Xmas .. im serious .. its my rebellion against " Perfect"