Before the pollies dropped the drinking age to 18 I would have almost gone along with that. There has been a definate spike in EBA offending in young people in the last few years.
Salted Pork
Before the pollies dropped the drinking age to 18 I would have almost gone along with that. There has been a definate spike in EBA offending in young people in the last few years.
Loud and Uncouth
I'm with you, bump the age back to 20, if the USA can do it so can this country.Originally Posted by spudchucka
And I don't want to hear platitudes and crap about "But if it's good enough to be able to vote at 18 and fight for your country at 18 you should be allowed to drink at 18"
I'm yet to see the logic in THAT argument - how would they feel if it was put to them "well in that case you can start driving when you get to 18"?.
BTW the reason 18 year olds are allowed to fight for their country (when was the last time any 18 year old ever 'fought for his country') is because all 18 year olds have no concept of mortallity or the fact the 'somebody' that might get shot could be THEM, hence they are quick to 'sign up'
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
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Tornado Alley
Nah... push the "refresh" button when shot and all will be OK...or alternatively, the "exit" and "new game" buttons...
Deus ex ukulele
Vietnam was a war. Korea was the United Nations police action.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Retired
I don't see how horsepower restrictions will solve anything. My best (public road) crashes were in 66kw Civics and an 88kw MX-5. I'd grown out of crashing cars by the time I got to the 200kw+ Lancer.
I haven't seen anything to suggest the cops had acted inappropriately in this case. Just a waste of more ACC funds as far as I'm concerned.
That goodie goodie two shoes speech about public safety at the start of a pursuit is hilarious. If I hear it one more time I might fall off the bike laughing.
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Immature and proud of it.
Albeit an undeclared one. Like WW2 at Pearl Harbour. And, dare I say it, Iraq.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Forum whore
Hence the term 'police action'.
Hitcher, you going to give Wiki 'the learn' then?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_action
What a load of piffle, Scumdog, it's not platitudes and crap at all. The "18" mark is considered a point of adulthood, where one can do many things, as you say, join the army, vote and also enter into contract. There is no logical reason for the drinking age to be different. Just because some/several/many (take your pick) 'young adults' in the 18-19 year bracket aren't mature enough to control their drinking, it doesn't invalidate the argument. On top of this, yes indeed, there are good reasons to bring the driving age up to 18 as well (a drivers license could be considered a contractual privelige, too many people treat it as a 'right').
As for 'no concept of mortallity' (sic), what the hell? Once again, the 18 year benchmark is there because a person had to enter into a contract to serve, its got little to do with a concept of mortality. It may compell young boys to want to join, but it is not the reason the law has been set this way (although it may be one reason why recruiting officers turned a blind eye to 15, 16 and 17 y.o. volunteers).
Night rider
One of my works mates is absolutely thrilled about this crash, not because anyone was injured, but because his son (who is usually an even bigger dick) was supposed to have been in the car as well. He decided to walk home with his girlfriend rather than take the lift in the Subaru. Hopefully his son has learnt a lesson from this.
Time to ride
Deus ex ukulele
Many thanks for this. I have learned something today. I had previously thought that the term "police action" related to collective decisions made by the United Nations.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Immature and proud of it.
20 for everything. Drinking, sex, smoking, driving, you name it.
No wait, make it 40. Better still.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Tornado Alley
Meh...kids gotta go some time from the nest...
Loud and Uncouth
The age reversal for drinking in the US caused a noticeable change in teen behaviour.
I and my workmates noticed a lot more negative behaviour with younger teens after the drinking age was lowered in NZ - all alcohol related..
True.
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
" Life is not a rehearsal, it's as happy or miserable as you want to make it"
Tornado Alley
Hamilton coppers will attest to that too...and here in the Naki. Put it back up,I reckon.
Immature and proud of it.
Everyone knows/knew that.
Except the pollies.
Speed doesn't kill people.
Stupidity kills people.
Aargh, photos!
What??? And keep the fun only for the dinosaurs?
To every man upon this earth
Death cometh sooner or late
And how can a man die better
Than facing fearful odds
For the ashes of his fathers
And the temples of his Gods
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