Mental illness in New Zealand

[Paul in NZ]

There was a great south park episode about alcohol addiction a while back.

Basically, once you diagnose someone as ill, they become ill and defined by that illness. People are a lot more complex than that! Well OK, I"M complex! Well OK, I'm pretty simple really but you know!

My sister works with extremely disturbed people. Criminally insane, interventions etc etc, dunno how she does it as she is a tiny wee thing. Anyway, she reckons a bit of healthy denial is a good thing. As long as you are basically functioning (in the broader sense) GO for it! The fact that you denigh what may be technically a problem, phht!

Dunno, makes a sort of sense i guess!

Cheers

[riffer]

...drug companies targeting healthy people....prosac for grieving, getting a little silly are we not?

First thing the doctors prescribe (after two weeks stress leave).

Prozac sucks. Gave me insomnia, erectile dysfunction and memory loss. I'm never going there again.

And there's very few drugs I've tried that will ever compare with the feeling you get on a large bike when you wind the throttle on coming out of a corner, the tyre bites and it just takes off...

and with that, I'm off home for the day too. 35kms to home.

On the bike.

[WINJA]

I'm the only sane one here...you are all nuts!

I DONT KNOW ANY COMPLETELY SANE MOTORCYCLIST, I THINK IT GOES WITH THE TERITORY , WHAT COMPLETELY SANE PERSON WOULD GIVE UP A NICE WARM CAR WITH SEAT BELTS,AIRBAGS,CRUMPLEZONES AND SELF TENSIONING SEATBELTS FOR A PLASTIC HAT AND BUGS IN YOUR TEETH

[Krusti]

First thing the doctors prescribe (after two weeks stress leave).

Prozac sucks. Gave me insomnia, erectile dysfunction and memory loss. I'm never going there again.

And there's very few drugs I've tried that will ever compare with the feeling you get on a large bike when you wind the throttle on coming out of a corner, the tyre bites and it just takes off...

and with that, I'm off home for the day too. 35kms to home.

On the bike.

I whole heartily agree....sex and bikes the two most powerfull drugs known to mankind. Can't get enough of either!

[WINJA]

I whole heartily agree....sex and bikes the two most powerfull drugs known to mankind. Can't get enough of either!

IS THAT CAUSE YOUR BROKE AND UGLY?

[Scorpygirl]

I'm the only sane one here...you are all nuts!

Krusti - you got it!!! Re Campbell Live and Prozac. That maybe true for some and it might be a short term measure. However for some it is just a drug like Insulin and come off it and you are back to square one cause there is too little Serotonin in your brain.

[u4ea]

I DONT KNOW ANY COMPLETELY SANE MOTORCYCLIST, I THINK IT GOES WITH THE TERITORY , WHAT COMPLETELY SANE PERSON WOULD GIVE UP A NICE WARM CAR WITH SEAT BELTS,AIRBAGS,CRUMPLEZONES AND SELF TENSIONING SEATBELTS FOR A PLASTIC HAT AND BUGS IN YOUR TEETH

like scorpy gal i have been following this thread with interest.i am really proud to be in the kb family.you lot are showing an awesome amount of openmindedness to the subject .i have fellow members of which two are scitzofrenic !!!!!!!!!!!its a big club and we all keep an eye on each other as brothers and sisters should!!!!on the bikes we are all free of our demons i reckon.find me someone who doesnt have just a little one..................

[Krusti]

IS THAT CAUSE YOUR BROKE AND UGLY?

Na ...cause there is not enough hours in the day for me to work my magic...

[WINJA]

Na ...cause there is not enough hours in the day for me to work my magic...

THE AVERAGE MAN GETS BY WITH 24 HOURS QUITE OK , MAYBE YOUR QUEER AND THE GIRLS CAN SENSE IT

[Paul in NZ]

I reckon if I could cultivate an alternate personality i could keep an eye on myself!

Nah! Wouldn't work! I'd just get into some sort of argument and loose sleep!

G night

[SwanTiger]

THE AVERAGE MAN GETS BY WITH 24 HOURS QUITE OK , MAYBE YOUR QUEER AND THE GIRLS CAN SENSE IT

It didn't take long for the homo with a poofter dog to come along and start ruining a perfectly healthy thread. Once again, he is accusing other people of homosexuality when he himself is in question of said homsexuality.

Maybe WINJA has a few "mental illnesess" he would like to discuss.

Lets start with the dog shall we.

[SwanTiger]

Basically, once you diagnose someone as ill, they become ill and defined by that illness. People are a lot more complex than that! Well OK, I"M complex! Well OK, I'm pretty simple really but you know!

You have got a fair point there dude, no doubt about that.

I think, as has already been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, that some people take advantage of it from both sides of the equation. That means the so called "medical professionals", pharacutical (sp) companies and the "sufferers" themselves.

Most problems only require understanding in the form of education. First of all the person with the problem needs to realise they have a problem, what causes it and what exactly they are experiencing. From there it is easy to figure out ways of dealing with it and moving on in life.

Common sense really, but in this "PC" society a lot of that fails to carry through into the public and private sectors dealing with mental illness.

One thing I am intent on is explaining various things to my daughter when she is older. Something that many parents fail at. I doubt that there are many people who can recall having a conversation with their parents in their younger years about stress and depression.

Very fortunate if you do or did have parents who were wise enough to do such a thing.

Big thumbs up to all the people who have posted. I wasn't expecting people to actually respond literally, it took a whole day before WINJA posted, thats fucken good going.

[Krusti]

I agree with you swanny but we also need to explain to our kids that there are NORMAL human emotions such as, sadness,lonlyness,grief etc and to experiance the good times we also need to have some bad. This is life.

The problem is that the saying, "I'm depressed" has become too common when all we are feeling is a normal human emotion.

Having said that I am glad at last that we can talk about these matters and hopefully the Mental Illness stigma will be less as time goes by. I tend to equate mental illness with back injuries...It is something that is extremly painfull and hard to deal with and to the outsider there may not be anything wrong but to the sufferer it is a very big deal.

[Grahameeboy]

There was a great south park episode about alcohol addiction a while back.

Basically, once you diagnose someone as ill, they become ill and defined by that illness. People are a lot more complex than that! Well OK, I"M complex! Well OK, I'm pretty simple really but you know!

My sister works with extremely disturbed people. Criminally insane, interventions etc etc, dunno how she does it as she is a tiny wee thing. Anyway, she reckons a bit of healthy denial is a good thing. As long as you are basically functioning (in the broader sense) GO for it! The fact that you denigh what may be technically a problem, phht!

Dunno, makes a sort of sense i guess!

Cheers

Good point.....it is like a disabled person......they will always be made to feel disabled if we treat them so whereas, if we just treat them as a "Normal" person they will not feel so disabled..........there is the physical side and the mental side I guess.

[SARGE]

One thing that became apparent to me after I had straightened up was the Medical Industries approach to various addiction problems.
Hushed tones, touching your arm whilst talking, lots of 'I know you must be really hurting' and a myriad of drugs to help you straighten up....all of these things made me worse! feeding the self pity, patronising me back to child hood.
Then one day.
The family Doctor lost his temper and gave it to me straight..what a fool..the wife will leave you..the money ETC..actually he didn't hold back.
Only wish he'd done it sooner frankly.

thats EXACTLY what i'm talking about.. if someone was there to administer a 6 pack of tough love... this shit wouldnt be so friggin prevalent..the big ad push for " EVERY CIGGY IS DOING YOU HARM" just cause me to want to go have another ciggy..

my old man was the one who got me through losing my eye.. he set it straight..

" YOU WANT TO BE A FUCKING CRIPPLE?.. BE A FUCKING CRIPPLE!"

thats the purest, most profound statement ive ever heard


we overmedicate in this society.. we are a bit sad.. we get happy pills from the Doc.. we overeat, we get diet pills..typical 5 year old behaviour get recomended for visits to the shrink and dosed till he's numb.. fock that .. give me all the raw emotion i can get i want the ups and downs .. i want the remorse.. fear, joy, fury, extasy, love, hate, indifference..

how can you call yourself human if you dull the experience? alot of the 'mental ilnessess' that are popping up are what our folks called..

"having a bad run"