Open Track Day Safety

[jimbo600]

Especially if you want to beat WT in his home ground.

Never happen. I'm the only one who can beat WT at Manfeild.

[Motoracer]

Thanx for that HO-Hoon.

Ehhhhhhh?? Mate am I surprised with these times!! Stuff track days, I'm saving up for the next race day now

Edit: I might sneak in 1 more trackday before my first race though. I have to see what my absolute best can be before I go out to compete. I'll be aiming for a 1.05...

[RiderInBlack]

I think someone else hit it on the head--The bails are NOT the prperty of the track theyre the AMCC's property. Someone would need to see AMCC or pehaps organise another private track session jointly with AMCC maybee

I knew that as I have marshelled for them.
It would be a good idea to work in with AMCC.
There were a lot of racing bike there practicing too. Some of them had to be AMCC members.

Originally Posted by White trash
Only takes a couple of hours to fire a few bales around the place. Not that I give a shit. I know the risks when I go out there and am totally prepared for what might go wrong. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Yep, it does and if we all got together they would be out and back not problem at all.
I don't mind "doing the time", but don't like having to pick up other people's pieces. Am a Reg Nurse (even though I don't work as one now) and can not help feeling a little for the Ambo Lady there at the track.

[RiderInBlack]

The problem is that the track is usually shared with cars so you can't really use bales as well.

Why the hell not? They don't interfer with the line "cans" take on the track. They are just Wool Bales with empty plastic milk bottles in them. Easily replaced if they get damaged. A lot easier than replacing a bike or it's rider.

[FROSTY:Me]

Ok well The clup pres is chris costello -happens to be a mate of mine--
I can talk to him on thursday --but as ya say the problem is --what if noono turns up--keeping in mind a fair percentage of the guys there were practicing for the meeting on saturday

[wkid_one]

They may sound like a good idea - however the responsibility will lie on those people 'hiring' the track - not on the track itself. Provided you are prepared to absorb the costs of doing it - the track will probably have no objections.

The next question is whether you will find enough riders prepared to fork out money for the additional safety - I know I wouldn't bother. The track is inherently safer than the road in any event, I would take my chances as it is.

Your next question is thus: If someone gets injured and it is as a result of a poorly placed bale - are you not responsible and therefore liable? I know I am not qualified in Motorsport Safety - nor do I carry Public Liability Insurance to cover me for such events - is anyone here?

I will take care of my own safety.

[FROSTY:Me]

bugger doubled up

[speedpro]

I've done a bit of time on the road race committee and spent time with the marshalls sorting the bales out. To get them out in a reasonable time you need a BIG truck and lots of helping hands. Helping hands can be even harder to find at the end of the day, trust me. Even with the storage space under the grandstand completely full of bales there is still going to be areas where there isn't enough bales to cover every crash point. The components of the bales are pretty basic but they aren't easy to replace because it is a bit of work to construct them. Again it's hard to get helping hands even though it isn't particularly hard to do.
I personally don't think Puke is a particularly safe track. The speeds are high and the obstacles and barriers are close. Having the bales out is a good idea.

[FROSTY:Me]

Actually I wonder if maybee organising a track day the day before an AMCC race meeting might be the way to go--Haul the bales out and leave em out till after the race day

[White trash]

Never happen. I'm the only one who can beat WT at Manfeild.

Thanks!

i think.........

[RiderInBlack]

Actually I wonder if maybee organising a track day the day before an AMCC race meeting might be the way to go--Haul the bales out and leave em out till after the race day

Good Idea.

I personally don't think Puke is a particularly safe track. The speeds are high and the obstacles and barriers are close. Having the bales out is a good idea.

Agree with that.

Your next question is thus: If someone gets injured and it is as a result of a poorly placed bale - are you not responsible and therefore liable? I know I am not qualified in Motorsport Safety - nor do I carry Public Liability Insurance to cover me for such events - is anyone here?

The track owner already has to fork-out everytime there is a bad accident on the track. This might be why Puke track hire costs are more than other NZ tracks. Putting the bales out lessens the damages. This could lower the running costs for the track owner, which could in the long run keep the cost down for us.

[KATWYN]

Theres "nowhere to go" on that Pukekohe track

...well hitting the tyres on your bike is a place to go I suppose,

but my freind is now a widow because of it.

[Kickaha]

From a track safety point of veiw Pukekohe is the one I consider the worst in the country,especially going over the hill,insufficent runoff if something goes wrong or you stuff it up,it the only part of the track that makes me really nervous.

Too much armco and all to close the the track.

[White trash]

From a track safety point of veiw Pukekohe is the one I consider the worst in the country,especially going over the hill,insufficent runoff if something goes wrong or you stuff it up,it the only part of the track that makes me really nervous.

Too much armco and all to close the the track.

On a GN125 bucket, how much run off do you need

[Motoracer]

What the heck is armco?