Beginners' guide to runners

**White trash** · 19th April 2006, 17:49

Originally Posted by kickingzebra

Cops would probably stand more chance of catching our recidivist speeders on 1933 harleys, than those POS beemers... What a mock they are, but thats another story...

Those R1150s are actually a surprising bike. Surprisingly so.

Fast Bikes also did an article 15 years ago about cops and runners and the likes. They sent Jason and Sean Emmett to spend a day with this bike cop. Sean Emmett at the time was a budding GP rider, standing in for Darryl Beatie and they both came away gobsmacked at the pace shown by the cop.

**2_SL0** · 19th April 2006, 18:27

Originally Posted by loosebruce

Yeah this was a most traumatic moment for myself, after many hours playing battlefeild 2 i decided to join the army, only to flag that idea when i found out that i couldn't re spawn change my kit to anti tank and blow the fuck out of the tank that just blew me to peices, plus i heard you have to get up at stupid hours in the morning and do heaps of physical work, fuck that for a joke.

Their not keen on the idea of letting you have a crack at piloting the choppers either. When I proudly mentioned "I should be able to handle that dinosaur ( Iroquois), Ive been flying a AH-1Z Super Cobra in BF 2" They looked at me funny and tore up my application. I proceeded to boast of my kill ratio, but I was shown the door. Not even when I mentioned I have played a real army simulator "Americas Army" and am a qualified special forces did they seem interested. Though in their defence, I have to say I was yelling that as I was been escorted out the door by military police. It may of sounded like the mad ramblings of a lunatic.

As for MB, I have entered this debate before with him, Im well aware as to where he stands on this matter. Its either a great troll, or a big wank off. Dont care which, Im more intested in pursuading the airforce to let me have a crack at the Herc. Did I tell you about my time flying Flight Sims.

**Madness** · 19th April 2006, 19:52

Originally Posted by madboy

Okay, this is not a thread to debate the merits or otherwise of what is by all accounts a very illegal and somewhat dangerous activity.

Take from it what you will.

Firstly, before you even think about engaging in this sort of activity - think very carefully about the consequences.

having a court appearance in your hospital bed is NOT a good story.

I'm not saying that real men do runners or anything like that. What I'm saying, is can you do what it takes to get away?

Adrenaline - a hell of a rush, but this is your enemy. Can you control your adrenaline to make sure you're gonna make the right decisions from start to finish?

Road conditions - it's 3.10pm and you're approaching school zones. The jury in your manslaughter trial won't be too interested in you trying to avoid a $400 ticket. Wind, road works up ahead, rain, pillion, traffic... the list goes on. Is now the right time to be running?

You've spent the 1.3 seconds to analyse the above and your decision is to run.

You can't outrun the radio.

Be prepared to go to Plan B. And while you're switching to plan B, make sure you've got Plan D nailed down, in case Plan B and C get blocked too.

Cops don't necessarily play fair. Some will follow you into oncoming traffic at 200k, they will lie to comms about your activities and the speeds involved, and they might even try and punt you off the bike if given the chance.

7. You see a cop car stopped on the side of the road ahead is he waiting to put the spikes out in front of you?

If you're in Auckland, one word - EAGLE. You fancy your chances against a helicopter?

10. You've got away and you're now on the home stretch, into your own neighbourhood the young woman next door ring the cops

Scanners can help, but they can also hinder.

You go blatting down some alley and mum walks around the corner pushing a pram?

At the end of the day I personally keep this in the perspective of this - my license and my money. How important is my license and my money to me? Neither of which will help me out much when I'm dead or sitting in a prison cell. If you can do a quick and dirty runner, get outta dodge and it's all over rover with no damage to you, your bike or anyone else - sweet. But if any of those three do get damaged, what was the point of the runner?

Overall, my advice if you're going to do a runner... think carefully. They only need to get lucky once, you need to get lucky EVERY TIME.

If you're so stupid as to take the above as encouragement to do a runner, all I can say is.....
Put half a bottle of dishwashing liquid in your crankcase oil. It helps keep your motor clean.

I think madboy has spawned some healthy discussion on what could be a potentially disastrous decision any noobie could face at some time. I think the overall feeling here is that doing a runner is stupid (anyone disagree?) and if a noobie learns that in here without having to draw on their own personal experience, then hoo bloody ray!!

Good on ya Madboy, you've got balls and I'm not referring to your riding (or your testicles)

**Kornholio** · 19th April 2006, 20:17

Originally Posted by Kawagreen

Their not keen on the idea of letting you have a crack at piloting the choppers either. When I proudly mentioned "I should be able to handle that dinosaur ( Iroquois), Ive been flying a AH-1Z Super Cobra in BF 2" They looked at me funny and tore up my application. I proceeded to boast of my kill ratio, but I was shown the door. Not even when I mentioned I have played a real army simulator "Americas Army" and am a qualified special forces did they seem interested. Though in their defence, I have to say I was yelling that as I was been escorted out the door by military police. It may of sounded like the mad ramblings of a lunatic.

As for MB, I have entered this debate before with him, Im well aware as to where he stands on this matter. Its either a great troll, or a big wank off. Dont care which, Im more intested in pursuading the airforce to let me have a crack at the Herc. Did I tell you about my time flying Flight Sims.

Lol during my 'tour of duty' playing Battlefield 1942 there was one smacktard named Spetznaz Prizrak *sp who was always boasting and carrying on ( he was a pretty good pilot).... i think fell off a cliff or went back to Russia....

**ferretface** · 19th April 2006, 20:32

Originally Posted by Dynamytus50

Why would that be? watching someone do something crazy and stupid is one thing, encouraging them is another.

Cus i'm sure people are more likely to attempt a runner after watchin it.
Its a bit like if you go to watch a live F1 or touring car race, watch how many testosterone fuelled guys race on the highway on their way home.

Hell I remember when Half-Life first came out and I used to play against other guys at work....it felt like I was still playing when I was ducking and diving out of traffic on my way home driving like a maniac!

**kickingzebra** · 19th April 2006, 20:37

Originally Posted by White trash

Those R1150s are actually a surprising bike. Surprisingly so.

Fast Bikes also did an article 15 years ago about cops and runners and the likes. They sent Jason and Sean Emmett to spend a day with this bike cop. Sean Emmett at the time was a budding GP rider, standing in for Darryl Beatie and they both came away gobsmacked at the pace shown by the cop.

I don't doubt they are quick enough in the right hands, put it this way, no matter what traffic is like, if I see a bike cop I stop even thinking about doing anything remotely stupid, hell, I don't even lane split.

Spent a bit of time with career bike cops, and I wouldn't want to go racing, I know who would be shouting the rounds afterwards. (me)

Just the way the whole procurement was done pisses me off. (refer my previous post)

**Jamezo** · 19th April 2006, 21:23

Originally Posted by ferretface

Cus i'm sure people are more likely to attempt a runner after watchin it.
Its a bit like if you go to watch a live F1 or touring car race, watch how many testosterone fuelled guys race on the highway on their way home.

Hell I remember when Half-Life first came out and I used to play against other guys at work....it felt like I was still playing when I was ducking and diving out of traffic on my way home driving like a maniac!

Hahaha, I still fondly remember playing Desert Combat for the first time, flying helicopters, and then spending the day sub-consciously leaning around corners inside my mates house... apparently it was quite comical until I realised I was doing it....

**GIXser** · 19th April 2006, 21:53

"i dont really care that Mad boy wrote this post or the reason behind it, what i find interesting, is that all the negative feedback on this rant is from people that ride bikes many of whom speed and i quote "at the right time" speeding at the right time" is in the eye of the beholder, not every one else around you-- is you speeding any different,??? you are still braking the law or pulling wheelies or other silly shit, guys /ladies judge your own riding first before you judge the post by madboy and dont be a hypocrite-- the fact that he started a thread is no different than you posting a profile picture of silly stunts and shit ,and bragging about how good you are

ps, this is coming from someone that wants to be good (in other words a try hard)

**White trash** · 20th April 2006, 08:36

Sorry GIXser, you're missing the point as I see it. My real problem isn't with this thread of Madboys. It's with his inccessant (sp) boasting of past runners and cop baiting. I find that behaviour VERY different from doing wheelies or riding quickly on some country back road. Or doing wheelies down a drag strip or four lane motorway. And I agree with you, speeding is breaking the law. I know this and therefore if I'm snapped doing it, I'll take my medicine, I knew I shouldn't have done it.

But can I just say, thank Christ someone's started a proper MOTORCYCLE thread on here that's opened some debate.

Edit: Oh GIXser, it aint braggin mutha fucker if ya back it up!

NC · 20th April 2006, 09:11

Originally Posted by GIXser

"i dont really care that Mad boy wrote this post or the reason behind it, what i find interesting, is that all the negative feedback on this rant is from people that ride bikes many of whom speed and i quote "at the right time" speeding at the right time" is in the eye of the beholder, not every one else around you-- is you speeding any different,??? you are still braking the law or pulling wheelies or other silly shit, guys /ladies judge your own riding first before you judge the post by madboy and dont be a hypocrite-- the fact that he started a thread is no different than you posting a profile picture of silly stunts and shit ,and bragging about how good you are

ps, this is coming from someone that wants to be good (in other words a try hard)

I think him doing 200+kms past a n00b ride (that he started the ride with) with the cops intoe proves that he's a wanka. Oh and on the next night did the samething. But there was a police road block waiting for us all. Because of him. Suprise suprise.
I think we can all draw enough attention to ourselves on the road without Madforthecock pissing the cops of just to have his weekly ejaculation in his pink panties. No one likes riding with him!

**madboy** · 20th April 2006, 14:14

Originally Posted by NC

I think him doing 200+kms past a n00b ride (that he started the ride with) with the cops intoe proves that he's a wanka. Oh and on the next night did the samething. But there was a police road block waiting for us all. Because of him. Suprise suprise.
I think we can all draw enough attention to ourselves on the road without Madforthecock pissing the cops of just to have his weekly ejaculation in his pink panties. No one likes riding with him!

Thank you NC, I appreciate your opinion in this matter. I agree that my conduct on occasions has been below the par expected of me by other riders around me. I am more than willing to accept constructive feedback, and will give it the consideration that is due to it. If the end result of that feedback is that I need to alter my behaviour around other bikers then so be it.

BUT CAN YOU GET THE FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH.

You won't know a fact if you rode into it. Your incessant bullshit is based on just that - bullshit. Stop listening to the walls and get a few facts together before you start wanking on. How you dare to judge me based on complete and utter bollocks makes me pity to sorry arse human being you must be. I didn't see you on any newbie ride, and I didn't see any 200k flybys on any newbie ride. And I didn't see any newbies on that ride who saw a 200k flyby with cops in tow by any biker, let alone me.

Cowpoos, Deano, WT et al might not be inviting me to any dinner parties, but at least what they've said isn't based on utter bollocks.

NC · 20th April 2006, 14:17

Originally Posted by madboy

Thank you NC, I appreciate your opinion in this matter. I agree that my conduct on occasions has been below the par expected of me by other riders around me. I am more than willing to accept constructive feedback, and will give it the consideration that is due to it. If the end result of that feedback is that I need to alter my behaviour around other bikers then so be it.

BUT CAN YOU GET THE FUCKING FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH.

You won't know a fact if you rode into it. Your incessant bullshit is based on just that - bullshit. Stop listening to the walls and get a few facts together before you start wanking on. How you dare to judge me based on complete and utter bollocks makes me pity to sorry arse human being you must be. I didn't see you on any newbie ride, and I didn't see any 200k flybys on any newbie ride. And I didn't see any newbies on that ride who saw a 200k flyby with cops in tow by any biker, let alone me.

Cowpoos, Deano, WT et al might not be inviting me to any dinner parties, but at least what they've said isn't based on utter bollocks.